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CHP / Greater danger to Turkish democracy?
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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 07:28 pm

What is chp?
When you look at the political parties in turkey AKP, MHP, DYP, ANAP, DTP and others, you can kind of explain without much difficulty to other people where they are in the political spectrum and what they represent. Similar parties can be identified in any other countries which have half way decent democracy and electrol system.
But there is a party in Turkey, which have been so important throuhgout the entire life of the republic. it is called CHP. There is no way you can explain what this party represents to a person who is not turkish!!
When you listen to the leader or the supporters of this party, they will call themselves social democrat. And your gut feelings puts this party on the left side of political spectrum.

But
Chp is a party that think they are the state and the people at the same time.
Chp is the party that you can question if it is a social democrat party but you can not question that it is a nationalist party. When they see that solutions for turkey in the changing world will upset the nationalistic feelings, they stick themselves to nationalism more.
Chp is the party that 'land and statusquo' makes its core and that is the reason it is a handicapped party as far as producing political solutions are concerned.
Chp is the party that did not hasistate to support the army's threathing, fascist message on their website on 28 april 2007
Chp thinks that necessary constitution changes, done for eu integration is bringing the sevr back, not necesary for democracy.
Chp thinks that democracy can be dangerous for turkey because of 'our country's special circumstances'.
Chp is the party that thinks the deep state is not very important issue to this country.
Chp is a party that its entire philosphy has been reduced to save the statusquo whatever the cost. They dont even have the courage or the strength to see the wrong parts about what they are trying to protect.

I am begining to think CHP is greater danger to Turkish democracy than islamist AKP or racist MHP!!

2.       KeithL
1455 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 08:57 pm

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Quoting thehandsom:

What is chp?

I am begining to think CHP is greater danger to Turkish democracy than islamist AKP or racist MHP!!

3.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 10:14 pm

You are wrong (again!!)
I have never ever had any inclinations to tkp.
If I had, I would not deny it!!
But however, yours is a very common way of attacking people, who shows what is wrong..
So it not a huge surprise.

4.       KeithL
1455 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 10:21 pm

You are too serious hansom. This was not an attack. Have some fun.
This is the same as saying "democratville" or "republicanville".
Please don't say this was an attack...

5.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 11:16 pm

I wouldnt say CHP is more dangerous than MHP, but it surely is more dangerous than (the nearly closed) AKP.

I heard a speaker of CHP on television one day, I'm sure Atatürk would turn around in his grave if he could see what has become of his party!

Though I am against the closure of AKP, I hope it opens the road to a to a real left democratic liberal thinking party.

6.       azade
1606 posts
 20 Apr 2008 Sun 11:38 pm

We need some new, forward-thinking parties

7.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 21 Apr 2008 Mon 01:13 am

anything is better than the American-based parties (aka the dogs of America), namely AKP, MHP, and DTP.

8.       white-wolf
55 posts
 21 Apr 2008 Mon 10:00 am

I think for progress of Turkey, CHP must be closed not AKP.

I have not seen any good thing from CHP for the folk. They allways bickering, dickering, spitting foams and attacking evrything. They do not offer anything positive. They support Coups and military rule when they could not beat other parties in the pools.

For Turkiye, the biggest threat is CHP not Sheria, not PKK, not Iran!

9.       incişka
746 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 04:12 pm

Quoting white-wolf:


They support Coups and military rule when they could not beat other parties in the pools.



Yes!! Like little spoilt kids

10.       incişka
746 posts
 22 Apr 2008 Tue 04:18 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I am begining to think CHP is greater danger to Turkish democracy than islamist AKP or racist MHP!!



Except that I dont agree on the titles of islamist and racist for those parties completely with u, + 1

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