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Wife beating in Islam - the woman is totally isolated
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20 May 2008 Tue 03:49 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: were there any provokings which I missed?
Surely, I would not miss if they had substance!! |
Why do u think he shouted like below  ?
Quoting MrX67: long liveeeeeeee who beathing his wifeeeee and long liveeeeeee to all systems which supporting beating wife!!!! |
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20 May 2008 Tue 03:50 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: anlayamadım??  i'm just against to all prejudicies and i'm on the side of maximum tolerance.Sure i'm not to mad for defend any wrong thing,i'm just against to blame a whole culture about some wrong samples.How can a spesific country or a few bad samples represent a whole culture or belief??we all have to show more effort for creating a more peacfull world instead of to make deeper diversities and prejudicies...And again i want to replay critism sure needed and usefull for fix problems but away from all double standarts by to be all objective.. |
I agree MrX
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20 May 2008 Tue 09:26 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting armegon: Quoting thehandsom: Jesus said that to his close friends. That is the reason why it was not recorded.. |
he endured very well to all provokings, but at last he blowed up |
were there any provokings which I missed?
Surely, I would not miss if they had substance!! |
Hmmm..how come Handsom knows what Jesus said to his friends although it was not recorded. Also, how come he responds to the issue of provocation in the first person singular? Could it be that the hairy cover hides wounds on his ankles and wrists? And the sword-made (or was it pike?) wound on his chest?  |
That's his other identity....theHoly!! 
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21 May 2008 Wed 05:47 am |
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Quoting catwoman: A short conversation of Arabic (Lebanese) women about this problem
Wife beating |
Quoting Daydreamer:  Shocking! Especially that part about the police...I also watched the video it was a response too. Not really less clear in its message.
How to beat your wife
Do people really listen to crap like that? |
You both post items from:
MEMRI
Issues of reliability and veracity
MEMRI is operated by a group closely associated with the Israeli intelligence organizations. Now, in an article in Haaretz, we find that the Israeli Army has sought to plant stories about 'terrorism' in the press, and
'Psychological warfare officers were in touch with Israeli journalists covering the Arab world, gave them translated articles from Arab papers (which were planted by the [Israel Defense Forces] IDF) and pressed the Israeli reporters to publish the same news here.' --Amos Harel, IDF reviving psychological warfare unit, Haaretz, January 25, 2005.
This should raise a question or two about the reliability and veracity of the stories peddled by MEMRI.
This is what Prof. Juan Cole had to say about this:
'So is MEMRI, which translates articles from the Arabic press into English for thousands of US subscribers, in any way involved in all this? Its director formerly served in… Israeli military intelligence. How much of what we 'know' from 'Arab sources' about 'Hizbullah terrorism' was simply made up by this fantasy factory in Tel Aviv?
As someone who reads the Arabic press quite a lot, this sort of revelation is extremely disturbing.
I also saw an allegation that British military intelligence had planted stories in the US press about Saddam's Iraq.
You begin to wonder how much of what you think you know is just propaganda manufactured by some bored colonel. No wonder post-Baath Iraq looks nothing like what we were led to to expect by the press, including the Arab press!' [3]
Another assessment:
If you rely on MEMRI for your knowledge of Arab discourse, you are really not informed. Arab public opinion, based on MEMRI's releases, is reduced or caricatured to either Bin Laden fans or Bush fans, while Arab public opinion is mosty a fan of neither people. --As'ad AbuKhalil [4]
Although widely used in the mainstream media as a source of information on the Arab world, it is as trustworthy as Julius Streicher's Der Sturmer was on the Jewish world. --Norman Finkelstein [5]
What's your game?
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21 May 2008 Wed 08:33 am |
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Quoting alameda:
What's your game? |
What's yours alameda? Are you actually denying this is a legitimate issue????
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21 May 2008 Wed 08:38 am |
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My question as well... so for alameda, if something is of jewish source it is completely wrong and has nothing to do with reality!  
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21 May 2008 Wed 09:06 am |
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Oh, since Alameda puts it this way...Thanks to her now I know that it is the propaganda only, not how things are in the Arab world. Still, it's impressive how those Jews send women all over the world to complain about women's rights. I have to note it down so I won't forget - all the bad things that we hear about from the Arab world are made up by Jews. Starting from 9/11, till the issue of police not responding to women being victims of domestic violence.
So, consequently, if a Jewish source prints an article about synagogues being burnt down in Europe, they're merely exaggerating, right? Or, in other words, we can't rely on Western sources because they're manipulated. Then, Arab women discussing a sad issue are Jewish propaganda officers. Alameda - I've heard about world conspiracy theories but you seem paranoid
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21 May 2008 Wed 10:10 am |
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My dears, I was only pointing out just who and what your source was. It is what it is.
It appears MEMRI is, in fact, a propaganda machine. I question anything that propagates hate, disharmony and misunderstanding.
Although you may like to paint me as anti Jewish, that is not true. MEMRI does not represent Jewish people.
Just who they represent I don't know. My comment was regarding the credibility of MEMRI as they are hardly a reliable and unbiased resource.
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21 May 2008 Wed 10:15 am |
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Quoting catwoman: My question as well... so for alameda, if something is of jewish source it is completely wrong and has nothing to do with reality! |
Quoting alameda:
You both post items from:
MEMRI
Issues of reliability and veracity
MEMRI is operated by a group closely associated with the Israeli intelligence organizations. |
Well,that make things has a different turn actually !
İt doesnt say Jewish,that says Israeli intelligence organizations
BİG DİFFERENCE !
Do you think that İsraeli Defence has a very tender heart and defending Arab women's rights ?!!!!
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21 May 2008 Wed 10:28 am |
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Quoting alameda:
Just who they represent I don't know. My comment was regarding the credibility of MEMRI as they are hardly a reliable and unbiased resource. |
I saw that the information in the right hand corner said "Translated by MEMRI" So, you're implying that since MEMRI is associated with Israeli intelligence and propaganda, they mistranslated what those people were saying? Or, you think they had these people at gunpoint and made them say such things?
I don't think Israeli organisations care about women's right in Arab countries. I wonder how the Lebanese police reacts in such cases. What if that material is true. Selective, biased but still true.
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21 May 2008 Wed 10:43 am |
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Quoting Daydreamer:
I saw that the information in the right hand corner said "Translated by MEMRI" So, you're implying that since MEMRI is associated with Israeli intelligence and propaganda, they mistranslated what those people were saying? Or, you think they had these people at gunpoint and made them say such things? |
İmplying one thing actually,it is NOT reliable
Translate write or wrong,had those people saying things or just broadcasting it....
Same ...NOT reliable
Quoting Daydreamer:
I don't think Israeli organisations care about women's right in Arab countries. I wonder how the Lebanese police reacts in such cases. What if that material is true. Selective, biased but still true. |
Police Lebanese react in what cases ?!
Wives beatings ?
İ dont know about their law,but of course women's situations are not the best..that is true
How good or how bad,depends on each country,tradition,percentage of educated women there
But the question is
What is Israeli organisations aim out of this ?!!!
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