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Circumcision (Sünnet)
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1.       kurtlovesgrunge
1435 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 04:17 pm

Circumcision is performed on about 1/7th of the world's male population. Circumcision is performed in Turkey for religious reasons. The advantages and disadvantages of circumcision have been debated for centuries. The main points of conflict revolve around whether or not to operate and the appropriate age for circumcision. Turks defer male circumcision until the age of six or seven, thus turning it from a birth ritual into a coming-of-age ordeal. As a tradition circumcision takes place during odd-numbered ages. On the day of the event, the boys dress in white and red ribbons and ride flower-bedecked donkeys or cars to the ceremony.
When the circumcision is completed, the young boy's "status" changes drastically: ribbons removed, they hold escort like kings on lavishly decorated beds, receiving compliments and gifts. Celebration of ritual circumcision is usually held after schools go on vacation or in the fall, close to the opening of schools. A boy who will be circumcised is called Sünnet Çocuğu (Child of Circumcision).

NOTE: It is appropriate to give a Cumhuriyet Altını (gold coin) or a watch as a gift to the boy in accordance to your relationship with him or his parents.

Tradition on Ritual Circumcision

Preparations for circumcision start early. An elaborate circumcision outfit and clothes for relatives of the child are bought by his father. A few days before the circumcision ceremony, he visits his relatives and neighbors in his circumcision outfit and kisses their hands. Every person whose hand is kissed customarily gives money to the boy. The circumcision hat is blue to protect him from evil eyes. In front of the hat a ribbon with the inscription Maşallah (Wonderful, May God avert the evil eye) is placed.

On the day of circumcision, guests come together and chant Mevlit and eat a meal while waiting for the arrival of the circumcised boy.

In villages in Anatolia, the young boy, before being circumcised, travels on horse back or by a procession consisting of cars, in and around the village. The boy is brought into the circumcision hall just before noon and does not dismount from his horse or get out from car until he receives money from his father. His father gives him a present and then circumcision ceremony starts.

During the circumcision ceremony the boy will have beside him a Kirve which is equivalent of a "Godfather" in Christianity. It is common to hear Oldu da bitti Maşallah (Well, it is all over and done) or Allahüekber (God is the greatest)

The boy who has just been circumcised wears a long and loose dress and is gently placed upon a very ornamented bed prepared in one corner of the home, to rest and recover. After having lunch, women and men customarily give presents to the child and stand beside his bed saying “everything remained in the past, you will gain your health soon”. Afterwards, the entertainment begins and continues often untel late in the evening.

2.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 04:49 pm

Kurt, thank you for today's posting. Hope you will get many replies. Tebrikler!


I have seen these little "Princes" in Eyup. See photo:

http://www.let.uu.nl/~Martin.vanBruinessen/personal/publications/Eyup_5.gif

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/044DcPwav30oQ/610x.jpg

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3361670.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=5C1929E78F851DD2E3DD949AC251B3AAA55A1E4F32AD3138

graphic scenes:http://www.noharmm.org/CAmoslcerem.htm





3.       geniuda
1070 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 06:36 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

graphic scenes:http://www.noharmm.org/CAmoslcerem.htm


Ouch! :-S

4.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 09:25 pm

why not circumcise them when they are still infants?

5.       CANLI
5084 posts
 30 Jun 2008 Mon 11:11 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

why not circumcise them when they are still infants?


Here they do it for boys when they are infants,but also heared in the past it was done for them in older ages same as in Türkiye with some sort of celebrations too,and its still same at countrysides.

6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 12:24 am

I wonder if anybody thought whether there is any relation between the men who, experienced hundreds of years of wrong circumcision with the razors of the 'barbers' and violence against women in Muslim countries.

Do you think behind all these 'trying hide their women into burkhas, seeing women as second class etc' are the men who 'semi or fully disabled by sunnet' ?

I think the question is if those men had/have, in their consciousness, kind of trauma against 'the libido of women' because of these these faulty circumcisions .
Can this trauma or fear be genetic because it has been going on hundred of years?

Any statistics about how competent of these people who perform these sunnet operations? (mine was a not a doctor for example!! He was the guy who was doing circumcisions during summers!! )
is Rocco F (or Adonis or 555k ???) circumcised?

Off many questions for the night!!!

7.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 12:40 am

Quoting thehandsom:


İ wonder if you have reread your post before you posted it and understood what are you indicating ? lol

8.       lady in red
6947 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 12:53 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting thehandsom:


İ wonder if you reread your post before you posted it and understood what are you indicating ? lol



Took me a minute or two to understand what you meant Canli! Maybe TheH had better amend this post before too many people see it!! lol lol lol

9.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 12:55 am

Quoting lady in red:



Took me a minute or two to understand what you meant Canli! Maybe TheH had better amend this post before too many people see it!! lol lol lol



Well,i from my side didnt QUOTE it ,left it to him lol
As any friend would do lol

10.       geniuda
1070 posts
 01 Jul 2008 Tue 01:00 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting thehandsom:


İ wonder if you have reread your post before you posted it and understood what are you indicating ? lol


lol lol lol

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