I am very confused how to translate things like:-

versem mi?
okusam mi?
gelsem mi?


etc. Colloquial Turkish by Yusuf Mardin is a horrible self teacher. It gives a paragraph full of verbal explanations [p 45], instead of supporting it by an example accompanied by just a single translation. It would then be easy. Değil mi?

If someone is contemplating purchasing it ... don't risk it because you will live to regret at leisure !!

Thanks

Tazx1

I would use a different book if I were you!
PS-Can you even make the conditional into a question?

That is what confuses me too, yet Yusuf Mardin seems to think so !

Versem mi ?
Okusam mı ?
Gelsem mi ?

Those are not conditional forms
They are Delek Kipi 'wishing forms'

And those are wishing forms in the Olumlu Soru

Versem mi ? here means like when you are talking with yourself thinking 'will i give ....'
Okusam mı ? means like 'do i read or not ?'
Gelsem mi ? 'will i come or not'

And you also can add the word Acaba in some sentence lie

Acaba bugün sinemaya gitsem mi ?
İ wonder do i go to the cinema today ?

Check this out
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_7888

CANLI >> thnak you very much. These colloquial usages are very easy to assimilate when explained. They are very difficult to undersatnd if a language speaker or a very comprehensive reference book is not available.

I have been searching 'deli gibi' to ascertain their meaning and usage. Yusuf Mardin [the author of the book 'Colloquial Turkish'] did not have enough sense and it is VERY VERY BADLY written book. I wish no one else will ever buy it to learn Turkish. Unfortunately it was recommended to me ... I would never ever recommend it.

THANKS, THANKS, THANKS.

Bir şey değil Tazx,
İm a lerner myself,and yes it would be diffecult to understand without having the right clue
İ use HİTİT,its good one,grammar is arranged well,easy to understand but with the help of teacher,or native speaker as you said
So once i dont get a rule,i post it here,and i have my answer in a very helpful way,easy and understandable,and great explanation as you saw in the link.
So happy that i could be any help
Wish aslan2 come back tho
İ used to enjoy his language debats with erdinç and caliptrix

Thanks for the grammar.(The wedding of course!!)

The wedding of course ,goes without saying,unless you can convince your cousin to go with you lol

or ask your cousin to have the wedding at the concert ..

two for the price of one

thanks for lesson i didnt know this meaning either-