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film review translation
1.       pmitride
47 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 08:19 pm

Hi there,
I´ve tried to read through this extracts from a film review but I´m a bit stuck. I thank you in advance if someone can help.


1/Çocuk tiyatrosunda oyunculuk yapan Ali ve Can aynı evde yaşayan ve geçim sıkıntısı çeken iki kankadır.
2/En büyük hayalleri iyi birer oyuncu olup sinema filmlerinde yer almaktır.
3/Ama piyasada tek tanıdıkları kişi casting işleri yapan menajerleri Ceyda´dır.
4/Ali ve Can günün birinde davetli olmadıkları bir film tanıtım partisine giderler.

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1/ Working as actors in children theater, Ali and Can are two (boys) living in the same house trying to make ends meet (´geçim sıkıntısı çeken´
++++++ couldn´t find exact meaning of çeken & kankadır

2/ They both have big dreams of finding a (real) job (yer) in big screen films and becoming good actors.

3/ But on the market, Ceydan is the person who konws all the managers in the casting business

4/ One day, Ali and Can go to a film presentation party to which they were invited.


2.       gordios
104 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 08:32 pm

 

Quoting pmitride

Hi there, I´ve tried to read through this extracts from a film review but I´m a bit stuck. I thank you in advance if someone can help. 1/Çocuk tiyatrosunda oyunculuk yapan Ali ve Can aynı evde yaşayan ve geçim sıkıntısı çeken iki kankadır. 2/En büyük hayalleri iyi birer oyuncu olup sinema filmlerinde yer almaktır. 3/Ama piyasada tek tanıdıkları kişi casting işleri yapan menajerleri Ceyda´dır. 4/Ali ve Can günün birinde davetli olmadıkları bir film tanıtım partisine giderler. -------------------------------------------------------- 1/ Working as actors in children theater, Ali and Can are two (boys) living in the same house trying to make ends meet (´geçim sıkıntısı çeken´ ++++++ couldn´t find exact meaning of çeken & kankadır 2/ They both have big dreams of finding a (real) job (yer) in big screen films and becoming good actors. 3/ But on the market, Ceydan is the person who konws all the managers in the casting business 4/ One day, Ali and Can go to a film presentation party to which they were invited.

 

 

 "Kanka" and " "kanki" are the short forms for  "kan kardeş or kan kan kardeşi" and "kankardeş or "kan kardeşi"="blood brother"

 

"geçim sıkıntısı çekmek" means "to have serious financial problems" so "geçim sıkıntısı çeken" means "who is having financial problems".

 

 

 

 

 

3.       gordios
104 posts
 11 Aug 2008 Mon 08:39 pm

Geçim    = Livelihood.

 

Sıkıntı    = Boredom and also means "financial difficulty".

 

Çekmek = To suffer. (first meaning coming to the mind is "to pull" but here it means " to suffer".

4.       pmitride
47 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 09:53 am

Thanks for the ´kanka´ bit.

Hard to know and find if you´re a yabancı. Any help on the other part is welcome.

5.       gordios
104 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:41 am

1/Çocuk tiyatrosunda oyunculuk yapan Ali ve Can aynı evde yaşayan ve geçim sıkıntısı çeken iki kankadır. (Ali and Can who are working in children´s theatre, living in the same house and having financial problems are two blood brothers.) 


2/En büyük hayalleri iyi birer oyuncu olup sinema filmlerinde yer almaktır. (Their biggest dream is becoming good actors and having roles in movies.)


3/Ama piyasada tek tanıdıkları kişi casting işleri yapan menajerleri Ceyda´dır. (But the only person they knew in this market was their casting manager Ceyda.)


4/Ali ve Can günün birinde davetli olmadıkları bir film tanıtım partisine giderler. (Ali and Can one they attend to am movie´s gala which they were not invited.)

 

 

-if i have mistakes in English translation please correct.

6.       pmitride
47 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 11:15 am

Thanks a lot Gordios,

That really clarifies things. I wasn´t too far but your help is precious. Here are my suggestions on the English. Mostly there are the way the sentence is split and ordered. This is something more complex than plain vocabulary issues :


...........................................

1/Çocuk tiyatrosunda oyunculuk yapan Ali ve Can aynı evde yaşayan ve geçim sıkıntısı çeken iki kankadır.
>> Ali and Can, who work in a children´s theatre, are two blood brothers who live in the same house and have financial problems.


2/En büyük hayalleri iyi birer oyuncu olup sinema filmlerinde yer almaktır. >> Their biggest dream is becoming good actors and getting roles in movies.
> I would translate ´almak´ as to get


3/Ama piyasada tek tanıdıkları kişi casting işleri yapan menajerleri Ceyda´dır.
>> But the only person they knew in this market was casting manager Ceyda.
> 100%


4/Ali ve Can günün birinde davetli olmadıkları bir film tanıtım partisine giderler.
>> One day, Ali and Can attend a movie gala to which they were not invited.

...........................................

In sentence 3, ´casting işleri yapan menajerleri´, why is ´menajer´ in the plural form in the original version ?


7.       gordios
104 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 11:30 am

thanks for your corrections.

i have modified the sentence 3. if you read it again you will get the answer, why it is plural.

 

menajerleri = their manager.

8.       pmitride
47 posts
 12 Aug 2008 Tue 06:26 pm

Oh, possessive ending :-%( Of course !

thanks your help.

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