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what do the A's mean?
1.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 02:17 pm

koşulmak

1. (for a horse-drawn vehicle) to be readied for departure.
2. /a/ to be hitched (to).
3. /a/ to be assigned to escort (someone).
4. /a/ to be put to work alongside (someone).



this is from the dictionary.. what do the A's mean?
how would i know what suffix these verbs are usd with?? :S

2.       bod
5999 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 02:24 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

koşulmak

1. (for a horse-drawn vehicle) to be readied for departure.
2. /a/ to be hitched (to).
3. /a/ to be assigned to escort (someone).
4. /a/ to be put to work alongside (someone).



As I understand it, they tell you which noun state is taken by that verb. So for example.......

1 - seni seviyorum - I love you
2 - sana tapıyorum - I adore you

In 1 'you' is in the accusative state (seni) because the verb sevmek takes the /ı/ state
In 2 'you' is in the dative state (sana) because the verb tapmak takes the /a/ state

sevmek
/ı/
1. to love; to like.

tapmak
/a/
1. to worship, regard (someone, something) as divine.
2. to adore, idolize (someone)



3.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 02:29 pm

is that really what it means??

waoww... thats great.. thanks!!

4.       bod
5999 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 02:30 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

koşulmak

1. (for a horse-drawn vehicle) to be readied for departure.
2. /a/ to be hitched (to).
3. /a/ to be assigned to escort (someone).
4. /a/ to be put to work alongside (someone).



In this case the same verb takes different noun states depending upon context......

araba koşulıyor
He is making the cart ready for departure

çocuğa koşulecek
He will escort the child

probably very bad examples :-S

5.       erdinc
2151 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 02:50 pm

Yes Bod's explanation is correct but unfortunately that verb wasn't so suitable so the examples are not so suitable either.

Here is another example:
hoşlanmak
/dan/ to like, be pleased with; to enjoy.

What the /dan/ means is that the verb when used with the -dan case has the following meaning next to. For instance okuldan hoşlanmak.

The Genitive is the Case of Ownership
Accusative: -i/-ı/-u/-ü
The Accusative is the Direct Object of a Verb - it equates to - the.. - in English
Dative: -a/-e
The Dative is the Case of Movement Towards - it equates to - to., towards.. - in English.
Locative: -da/-de or -ta/-te - according to Consonant Mutation rules.
The Locative is the Case of Place - it equates to - in.. on.. at.. - in English.
Ablative: -dan/-den or -tan/-ten - according to Consonant Mutation rules.
The Dative is the Case of Movement Away - it equates to - from.. by.. via.. - in English.

6.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 03:08 pm

great.. thank you...!

7.       bod
5999 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 03:40 pm

Quoting erdinc:

Yes Bod's explanation is correct but unfortunately that verb wasn't so suitable so the examples are not so suitable either.



Could you explain what you mean by the verb not being so suitable?

8.       Elisa
0 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 03:46 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

koşulmak

1. (for a horse-drawn vehicle) to be readied for departure.
2. /a/ to be hitched (to).
3. /a/ to be assigned to escort (someone).
4. /a/ to be put to work alongside (someone).



this is from the dictionary.. what do the A's mean?
how would i know what suffix these verbs are usd with?? :S



Check post 15 of this thread
I think the whole tread is useful actually.

9.       bod
5999 posts
 21 Mar 2006 Tue 03:49 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Check post 15 of this thread



I was looking for that thread and couldn't find it :-S

Teşekkürler Elisa

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