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1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 04:05 am

 Greeks and Turks have more in common than they might like to admit. First of all, the food. Giant slabs of meat roasting on a stick - call it kebab or call it souvlaki, it´s the same thing. Then there is spanakopita, or borek in Turkish, olives, white beans in tomato sauce (fasuliye or fasolada) and the sweets: baklava, helva, kadayif, not to mention all the yogurt....

They have many words in common, too, despite the complete difference in language. They both drive with a devil-may-care attitude, and use the already narrow sidewalks as parking lanes. Both countries are fiercely proud of their history, language and culture - if you listen to a Greek, they invented everything, if you listen to a Turk, their country is the very birthplace of civilization. And if you have problems with the evil eye, they will sell you the same charms in Athens as in Istanbul.

 

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2.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 08:32 am

 

Quoting Roswitha

 Greeks and Turks have more in common than they might like to admit.

 

Absolutely! In fact, we all have more in common then we think. It´s quite sad how people prefer to fight against each other instead of working together...

3.       vineyards
1954 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 12:33 pm

Roswitha, the music is the same too. We lived together hundreds of years.

 

Another reason for the similarities is that the Greeks actually lived together with Turks when other minorities formed their own districts or neighborhoods. The Greeks were also trusted with important services in the government.

 

We learned many things from Greeks. They served as our window into the European civilization. There is still a sympathy for Greek people in Turkey unaffected from the bitter incidents of the near past. I believe majority of people in Turkey would like to be closer to Greeks on account not only of the similarities but also of the fact that these two peoples have proven that they could form a synergetic coexistence.

 

Unfortunately, like in many other things, the voice of rednecks who racistically name Turks as barbarians or Mongols on the Greek side and those who ridicule Greeks on the Turkish side is heard more than that of the moderate people.

4.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 01:33 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Unfortunately, like in many other things, the voice of rednecks who racistically name Turks as barbarians or Mongols on the Greek side and those who ridicule Greeks on the Turkish side is heard more than that of the moderate people.

 

I could not agree more..

5.       cedars
235 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 01:38 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

 
 - if you listen to a Greek, they invented everything, if you listen to a Turk, their country is the very birthplace of civilization.

 

 Wait a minute...I thought We, phoenicians, invented everything

 

I truely think that mediterraneans have many things in comon and they should focus more on what unites them instead of what divides them.

 

Roswitha, you forgot to mention the most important beverage in the region and that is arak (arabic) Raki (turkish), Ouzo (greek), Oghi (armenia). It is so good with kebab especially when it is home made. cheers.

 

6.       Merih
933 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 01:59 pm

The problem is when you are in the country.. as a Turk who lives overseas, my best friends have always been Greeks, and Greek Cypriots.

 

By the way, Please watch "My big fat Greek Wedding" if you haven´t until now... I always see my people there.

7.       Lady_Metal
220 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 02:20 pm

Cypriot greeks arent like the ones who lives in Greece, at least they arent so uneducated and dont shout without any reason with their wives  and get a shout as answer from them even in the streets. Ýn Cyprus almost everybody knows english so its not a big deal to comunicate with them while in Greece, mainly in Big cities like Athens and Salonika, if you dont know any Greek, you may have a lots of problems to buy food or find your right way for example. Here even if you dont know any turkish, the native ones try their best to make you understand what they are trying to explain and also to understand you. There, men prefer get married with a woman who is rich. The tradition there is that the woman must have the house (her parents buy or build one for all of their daughters so if they get divorced they will have a place to stay, but some stupid ones pass the house in name of their husbands and after the divorce they have no place to go except their parents houses. The parents of the woman give everything for the house, even the basic stuff but the guy just get inside of it and make lots of complains about what he see

In here ( Turkey) people are fast to help foreingner without asking anything in exchange and if they can they also offer you help to learn turkish and they give you a place to stay when you have got no one and they offer you the best that they have at home, even their own beds. In Greece greeks are always self-centered and owner of the reason. Even when they are quite wrong they always wanna prove they are right, they have bad educated behaviour at table and they like to use bad words all the time and speak bad things (I meant lies) even among themselves when the person isnt close to defend him/herself. Even if they can help they never do.. they always think about their own navels before everything, they have no idea how its difficult to be a foreingner in their country if you came from miles away and have no relatives around you. They dont care about taking a exam to go to the university even knowing that all courses and uni there are public, they are always affraid of leaving their families to go to another city to study or work since their mother do everything for them and they dont know how to do anything by themselves.. they think that everybody around is guilty for the bad situations except themselves.. they treat their mothers as slaves and shout with them when they dont find any ironed t-shirt in their rooms... They complain that foreigner have jobs and they dont... if we wanna get a job there we must accept anything like washing dishes in a dirty traditional restaurant by hours getting a ridiculous salary but they dont accept this sort of job coz they think they desirve something better to spend money talking and drinking frappes for hours without doing or thinking about anything, life for them has no responsability, it should be for enjoying all the time ( like Socrates and Platon thoughts).

Most of them like spending time speaking bad things about turks and telling that one day they will organize a war to take ´Constantinopla´ back from the turks.They never mention the world ´Istanbul´. But I never saw any turk losing their time talking such stupid things against greeks in here.

I am talking those experiences I had while living for a year in Greece and compairing with my almost 6 months here in Turkey. So I mean, I am not talking about things I heard from someone or I watched in a movie, this was I experienced in my own skin and saw with my own eyes.

8.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 02:46 pm

 

Quoting Lady_Metal

Cypriot greeks arent like the ones who lives in Greece, at least they arent so uneducated and dont shout without any reason with their wives  and get a shout as answer for them even in the streets. Ýn Cyprus almost everybody knows english so its not a big deal to comunicate with them while in Greece, mainly in Big cities like Athens and Salonika, if you dont know any Greek, you may have lots of problems to buy food or find your right way for example. Here even if you dont know any turkish, the native ones try their best to make you understand what they are trying to explain and also to understand you. There men just get married with a woman if she is rich. The tradition there is that the woman must have the house (her parents buy or built one for all their daughters so if they get divorced they will have a place to stay, but some stupid ones pass the house in name of their husbands and after the divorce they have no place to go excep their parents houses. The parents of the woman give everything for the house, even the basec stuff but they guy just get inside and make lots of complains about what he see

In here ( Turkey) people are fast to help foreingner without asking anything in exchange and if they can they also offer you help to learn turkish and they give you a place to stay when you have got no one and they offer you the best they have at home, even their own beds. In Greece greeks are always self-centered and owner of the reason. Even when they are quite wrong they always wanna prove they are right, they have bad educated behaviour at table and they like to use bad words all the time and speak bad things (I meant lies) even among themselves when the person isnt close to defend him/herself. Even if they can help they never do.. they always think abut their own navels before everything, they have no idea how its difficult to be a foreingner in their country if you came from miles away and have no relatives around you. They dont care about taking a exam to go to the university even knowing that all courses and uni there are public, they are always affraid to leave their families to go to another city to study or work since their mother do everything for them and they dont know how to do anything by themselves.. they think that everybody around is guilty for the bad situations except themselves.. they treat their mothers as slaves and shout with them when they dont find any ironed t-shirt in their rooms... They complain that foreigner have jobs and they dont... if we wanna get a job there we must accept anything like washing dishes in a dirty traditional restaurant by hours getting a ridiculous salary but they dont accept this sort of job coz they think they desirve something better to spend money talking and drinking frapes for hours withou doing or thinking about anything, life for them has no responsability, it should be for enjoying all the time ( like Socrates and Platon thoughts).

Most of them like spending time speaking bad things about turks and telling that one day they will organize a war to take ´Constantinopla´ back from the turks. But I never saw any turk losing their time talking such stupid things against greeks in here.

I am talking those experiences I had while living for a year in Greece and compairing with my almost 6 months here in Turkey. So I mean, I am not talking about thing I heard from someone or I watched in a movie, this was I experienced in my own skin and saw with my own eyes.

 

This is unbelievably generalistic and rude!!!  Most Greeks I know have better things to do than sit around "speaking bad things" about Turks! Maybe you only met "uneducated" people there lol

I am sure our Greek members will love it.........

9.       Lady_Metal
220 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 02:49 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

This is unbelievably generalistic and rude!!!

I am sure our Greek members will love it.........

 

 I am not being generalist. At least 90% of them are like this. If you never have been there or here for at least one month dont talk about what you dont know.

10.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 05 Nov 2008 Wed 02:50 pm

 {#lang_emotions_laugh_at}

Quoting Lady_Metal

 I am not being generalist. At least 90% of them are like this. If you never have been there or here for at least one month dont talk about what you dont know.

 

 All the Brazilians I ever met were opinionated and rude.... how do you like MY generalisation !lol lol lol

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