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"His mother was an Armenian" !!!
1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 02:15 pm

"His mother was an Armenian"

That is what the deputy of CHP says for the president Abdullah Gul as an answer to what  the president said about ´the apology campain for Armanians´

 

she said, claiming that President Gül -- because of his "ethnic origins" -- was not reacting to the campaign. "We see that the president supports this campaign. Abdullah Gül should be the president of the entire Turkish nation, not just of those sharing his ethnicity. Investigate the ethnic origin of the president’s mother and you will see," she said. There have been rumors that Gül’s family has Armenian roots.

And the president´s view was "discussions on the subject as indicators of self-confidence and the existence of a free and democratic country"

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=161691

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/yazarDetay.do?haberno=161748  (deputy´s fascist remarks)

 

Well, what can you add really..

If you dont call the deputy of CHP, which is the main opposition party, as racist, who can be called as racist?

And also what she says is the answer to the questions like :

how can the president´s Armenian mother managed to get married to a Turk?

did her family consent that marriage?

did she have a family? if not, what happened to her family?

why are there  many Armenian mothers in this country and no Armenian fathers? what happened to them?

2.       femmeous
2642 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 02:34 pm

Quote:

how can the president´s Armenian mother managed to get married to a Turk?

did her family consent that marriage?

did she have a family? if not, what happened to her family?

why are there  many Armenian mothers in this country and no Armenian fathers? what happened to them?

 

 

can you eloborate on them yourself?

3.       vineyards
1954 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 02:40 pm

Thehandsom, I don´t have access to statistics of the past but I know that today there are marriages between Armenians and Turks. For example, the one I attended a while ago was between an Armenian man and a Turkish woman. Although both families had considerable difficulty accepting that marriage, they could sort out their differences in the end.

 

Interracial or intercultural marriages are still a problem today regardless of where we are talking.

 

As for President Gul´s ethnic roots, I wouldn´t care less. What I care about is his performance as a president which is awful to say the least.

4.       CANLI
5084 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 11:03 pm

But isnt the fact that president Gül is already the president and his mother was an Armenian says something ?

That Turks dont really care for those sort of things,and its just a Media stuff as usual ?!

5.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Dec 2008 Sat 11:51 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

But isnt the fact that president Gül is already the president and his mother was an Armenian says something ?

That Turks dont really care for those sort of things,and its just a Media stuff as usual ?!

 

What are you talking about?

People still get killed there for being Armenian and talking about the issues regarding 1915?

Do you really believe calling someone ´armenian seed´ or ´your mother is armenian´ is a nice thing to say in Turkey?

It is considered as insult for many..That is the reason why CHP deputy has said what she said.. 

6.       CANLI
5084 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 12:09 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

What are you talking about?

People still get killed there for being Armenian and talking about the issues regarding 1915?

Do you really believe calling someone ´armenian seed´ or ´your mother is armenian´ is a nice to say in Turkey?

It is considered as insult for many..That is the reason why CHP deputy has said what she said.. 

 

Yes,but if so,and there are rumors that he has an armenian roots,they why people accept him as president ?

Ý dont find it logical!

7.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 12:55 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

What are you talking about?

People still get killed there for being Armenian and talking about the issues regarding 1915?

Do you really believe calling someone ´armenian seed´ or ´your mother is armenian´ is a nice to say in Turkey?

It is considered as insult for many..That is the reason why CHP deputy has said what she said.. 

 

Actually it is much worse if you call someone Kurdish around here. Last time I did that, the man felt so insulted he jumped right out of 10th floor window and killed himself.

 

Moral of my message: one stupid remark deserves only to be rewarded by another equally stupid remark.

8.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 01:27 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

Actually it is much worse if you call someone Kurdish around here. Last time I did that, the man felt so insulted he jumped right out of 10th floor window and killed himself.

 

Moral of my message: one stupid remark deserves only to be rewarded by another equally stupid remark.

 

Oh..Dear Confucius!!!

Respect!!!!!

 

Anyway, the matter of fact is that school books used to be full of passages which would show Armenians as our enemy (I dont know if it is still the case)

We have seen many  intellects, politicians, ministers, the president of the Turkish Historical Society etc using remarks such as ‘Ermeni dölü’ -armenian seed, ‘Ermeni piçleri’-´armenian bastards-, ‘maalesef Ermeni’-unfortunately he/she is Armenian´.

9.       bydand
755 posts
 21 Dec 2008 Sun 01:33 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Oh..Dear Confucius!!!

Respect!!!!!

 

 Oh Dear don´t let us have a fallout! {#lang_emotions_scared}

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