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miss_ceyda
2627 posts

04 Apr 2006 Tue 04:09 pm

damla:
14.You can use both of them.But for me 7gÃ¼n iÃ§in kalacağım.'s sound is better.

savassarioglu:
14. i'll stay there for 7 days= ??
is "icin" used here or the "-lik" suffix??
Unfortunately nothing is used!!! "Orada 7 gÃ¼n kalacağım".

these contradict each other..!!??!! which one do i listen to??

20. pazar gecesi= sunday night
pazartesi oglen= monday afternoon
It sounds inconsistent but: "pazar gecesi"="sunday night", "pazar Ã¶ğlen"="sunday at noon", "pazar Ã¶ğleden sonra"="sunday afternoon", "pazar akşamı"="sunday evening" etc.

could this be explained again please? anlamadım...!

1.
dÃ¼şeyazdım= i almost fell is this correct?

2.
i have been given this example, is it correct? tam onun hakkında konuşmaya başladığımı zaman tam kapıyı aÃ§tı
surely, it would bebaşladğım zaman and only the first tam used..?

3.
i have been given these examples, are they correct?
a.
dansın başlamasıyla ışıkların sÃ¶nmesi bir oldu= no sooner had the dance started, the lights went out
b.
ankara'dan geri dÃ¶nmemle paris'e hareket etmem bir oldu= no sooner had i returned from ankara, than i left for paris
c.
seda'nın odaya girmesiyle telefonun tekrar Ã§alması bir oldu
d.
hasan'ın ahizeyi yerine koymasıyla telefonun tekrar Ã§alması bir oldu
e.
onu gÃ¶rmemle tanımam bir oldu
f.
yabancının bahÃ§e kapısını aÃ§masıyla kÃ¶peğin ona havlaması bir oldu (bod )

4.
i have been given these examples, are they correct?
a.
her ne zaman ingilizce konuşmaya başlarsam arkadaşım gÃ¼lerdi= whenever i started to speak english my friend used to laugh
b.
ne zaman şarkı sÃ¶ylesem kız kardeşim derhal odadan Ã§ıkar
also, does it make a difference here whether we use, say, sÃ¶ylersem or sÃ¶ylesem ??

5.
these correct?
a.
ona her rastlayışımda kendisini sinemaya gÃ¶tÃ¼rmemi ister= every time i meet her she wants me to take her to the cinema
b.
sirke her gidişimizde Ã§ocuklarımız dondurma satın alır(lar)

6.
these correct?
bunca= all of this
onca= " " that
bunlarca " " these
onlarca " " those

here are some eg. i have been given,
bunca kediler uzun kuyruklu(dur)
onca gazeteler dÃ¼nkÃ¼
bunlarca dergi

in regards to the 1st one, wouldnt it be bunca kedi because bunca already stresses plural.

7.
another given eg. ...correct?
lÃ¼tfen bana saygısızlık etme= please dont disrespect me

11.
is this the correct translation of is her father rich or is he rich... babası zengin mi zengin ??
is the commonly used?

102.
is this correct guys?:
herkes dans edin bakayım

103.
from the slang thread: sarkmak= a: (-e) molest... b: (-e) to drop by... c: (-den) lean so would i be correct in saying, bugÃ¼n evine sarkayım?? or does that sound like let me molest your house hehehe

104.
abayı yakmak= to fall deeply in love with sorry, maybe iv asked this before, but what suffix is this used in conjunction with?

105.
hehe sometimes even I forget things.. just tell me in one sentence this time ok?:
to say i didnt know it was him would it be onun olduğunu bilmiyordum/ bilemdim or o olduğunu.. etc...??? maybe the 2nd one?? :S

106.
how do we say she's got cancer??

107.
and yeah.. iv asked this one before as well... sorry..
just tell me in one or two sentences so its easy to remember please hehe ...
Melek (as a name)
to say im gonna buy this for melek we would right it as bunu melek'e alacağım but pronounce it as bunu meleğe alacam
IS THAT CORRECT PEOPLE?? :S i really hope so...

Elisa
0 posts

04 Apr 2006 Tue 04:24 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Check The suffix -lik with numbers on this page (paragraph nr. 4).

miss_ceyda
2627 posts

04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:14 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Check The suffix -lik with numbers on this page (paragraph nr. 4).

its not used then ha? :S

Elisa
0 posts

04 Apr 2006 Tue 05:39 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting miss_ceyda:

Check The suffix -lik with numbers on this page (paragraph nr. 4).

its not used then ha? :S

No, it think you can use it but you don't have to. But if you really want to stress the amount, I think it's good to use the -lik suffix. That's how I understood it anyway...

miss_ceyda
2627 posts

04 Apr 2006 Tue 08:13 pm

ok thanks..!!!

now could someone for gods sake please answer the other darned questions..

PLEASE!!

erdinc
2151 posts

05 Apr 2006 Wed 12:58 am

14. In these kind sentences "iÃ§in" isn't a good idea.

savassarioglu's suggestion is a good one:
"Yedi gÃ¼n kalacağım"

"İÃ§in" could be used in such a sentence:

"Yedi gÃ¼n iÃ§in gidiyorum". But still this sentence wouldn't be very strong. I would prefer "Yedi gÃ¼nlÃ¼ğÃ¼ne gidiyorum".

20.
[pazartesi, salı, Ã§arşamba, perşembe, cuma, cumartesi, pazar] + [sabahı, akşamı, gecesi]

'Ã¶ğlen' or 'Ã¶ğle' isn't used in a smallar way. We could say "Ã¶ğlen vakti", "Ã¶ğlen saatlerinde",

I wouldn't say "pazartesi Ã¶ğlen" or "pazartesi Ã¶ğleni". I would prefer "pazartesi Ã¶ğlen saatlerinde". It just sounds unusual to me. On the other hand "yarın Ã¶ğlen" is perfectly alright.

Quote:

1. dÃ¼şeyazdım= i almost fell is this correct?

We had an argument with Alphaf about this. Obviously that word is used in some towns in West Turkia. Still I think it is not a good idea to use it in written language. I have never heard this word and can't tell its meaning without checking the dictionary. If somebody uses such a word I would think the person is trying to look cool or interesting. Obviously not a good way.

2. "Tam onun hakkında konuşmaya başladığım zaman kapıyı aÃ§tı" is correct.

3. Notice that I made slight changes on some sentences.
a. "Dansın başlamasıyla ışıkların sÃ¶nmesi bir oldu." is correct.
b. "Ankara'dan geri dÃ¶nmemle Paris'e hareket etmem bir oldu." is correct.
c. "Seda'nın odaya girmesiyle telefonun tekrar Ã§alması bir oldu." is correct.
d. "Hasan'ın ahizeyi yerine koymasıyla telefonun tekrar Ã§alması bir oldu." is correct.
e. "Onu gÃ¶rmemle tanımam bir oldu." is correct.
f. "Bir yabancının bahÃ§e kapısını aÃ§masıyla kÃ¶peğin ona havlaması bir oldu" is correct.

4. Notice that I changed some sentences to correct them.
a. "Ne zaman İngilizce konuşmaya başlasam arkadaşlarım gÃ¼lerdi." is correct.
b. "Ne zaman şarkı sÃ¶ylesem kız kardeşim derhal odadan Ã§ıkar." is correct. Alternatively "Her şarkı sÃ¶ylemeye başladığımda kız kardeşim hemen odadan Ã§ıkar" is more strong.
c. "also, does it make a difference here whether we use, say, sÃ¶ylersem or sÃ¶ylesem ?" Yes, it makes a difference. I corrected a for this reason (should be başlasam and not başlarsam).

5.
a. "Ona her rastlayışımda kendisini sinemaya gÃ¶tÃ¼rmemi ister" is correct but not very strong. An alterative could be: "Onunla her karşılaştığımızda kendisini sinemaya gÃ¶tÃ¼rmemi istiyor".

b. "Sirke her gidişimizde Ã§ocuklarımız dondurma satın alır." is correct. Alternatively we could say "Sirke her gittiğimizde bizim Ã§ocuklar dondurma satın alırlar." is stronger.

6. I changed the translatios.
a. bunca = 1. this much, 2. so much 3. so many
b. onca = 1. that much, 2. so much 3. so many
c. bunlarca > incorrect word
d. onlarca = 1. such a lot, 2. greater than 10 and less than 100

e. bunca kediler uzun kuyruklu(dur) : incorrect. Shouldn't be kediler.

"Pek Ã§ok kedi uzun kuyrukludur." is correct.
"Uzun kuyruklu pek Ã§ok kedi vardır." is correct.
"Uzun kuyruklu onca kedi var." is correct.
"Bunca uzun kuyruklu kedi arasından bir tanesini beğenemedin mi?" is correct.

f. onca gazeteler dÃ¼nkÃ¼ : incorrect
"DÃ¼nkÃ¼ pek Ã§ok gazete bu haberi verdi" is correct

g. bunlarca dergi : incorrect. Bunlarca doesn't exist.
"Bu kadar Ã§ok dergiyi ne yapacaksın" is correct.

h. "in regards to the 1st one, wouldnt it be bunca kedi because bunca already stresses plural." Yes "bunca kedi" (so many cats) is correct.

7. "LÃ¼tfen bana saygısızlık etme." is correct but not very strong. "LÃ¼tfen saygısızlık etme." or "LÃ¼tfen biraz daha saygı gÃ¶ster." is stronger.

11. "Babası zengin mi zengin" means "his/her father is very rich. Smillarly "gÃ¼zel mi gÃ¼zel" means "very beautiful". And yes it's common.

102. "herkes dans edin bakayım" : incorrect

"Herkes dans etsin bakalım" is correct
"Hepiniz dans edin bakayım" is correct

103. "from the slang thread: sarkmak= a: (-e) molest... b: (-e) to drop by... c: (-den) lean so would i be correct in saying, bugÃ¼n evine sarkayım?? or does that sound like let me molest your house hehehe" No, it would be incorrect.

Sarkmak can be used when you are talking about a third person. You don't use it with second person (you). On the other hand sarkmak is a bit harsh. I would prefer "asılmak" which sounds more fun.

Example:
"Şuradaki Ã§ocuk sana asılıyor galiba."

104. "abayı yakmak" this is an idiom. You don't change anything about its suffixes. It means "to fall in love in such a way where you lose control".

105.
"to say i didnt know it was him would it be onun olduğunu bilmiyordum/ bilemdim or o olduğunu.. etc...??? maybe the 2nd one?? :S "

"Onun olduğunu bilmiyordum." correct.
"O olduğunu bilmiyordum." correct.

You choose one of them according the context. "onun olduğunu" means "him being something". On the other hand "o olduğunu" means "him being the one/person".

106.
"how do we say she's got cancer??"
O kanser hastası.
O kanser hastasıymış.

107.

Quote:

..."Bunu Melek'e alacağım" but pronounce it as bunu meleğe alacam
IS THAT CORRECT PEOPLE?? :S i really hope so...

Yes it is correct. By the way the pronounciation of alacağım is "alıcağm".

Elisa
0 posts

05 Apr 2006 Wed 11:31 am

Quoting erdinc:

Would you mind explaining how this last sentence is constructed, and how do you translate it? Is it gÃ¼nlÃ¼k + Ã¼ (why?) + buffer n + dative?

miss_ceyda
2627 posts

05 Apr 2006 Wed 12:07 pm

thanks so muh erdinc..

but for saying, "i almost fell" what would the correct way be??

cheers