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READ IT! YOU WÝLL BE SURPRISED !
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24 Jan 2009 Sat 11:13 pm |
ONCE UPON A TIME…
The British:
People mostly got married in June. Because they had their yearly bath in the month of May, in June they started smelling bad and for the purpose of stopping a bad smell emanating from their bodies, brides carried a bouquet in their hands.
From this I guess, the British did not bath often? Given the proliferation of hamams in Turkia, it seems the Ottomans bathed much more often than the British.
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25 Jan 2009 Sun 12:44 am |
ONCE UPON A TIME…
The British:
People mostly got married in June. Because they had their yearly bath in the month of May, in June they started smelling bad and for the purpose of stopping a bad smell emanating from their bodies, brides carried a bouquet in their hands.
From this I guess, the British did not bath often? Given the proliferation of hamams in Turkia, it seems the Ottomans bathed much more often than the British.
That´s not really surprising if we take into account the climate in the British Isles and that in the Mediterranean area 
I think it was Queen Elisabeth I who was an advocate of hygiene and would always say she bathes every month whether she needs it or not 
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25 Jan 2009 Sun 05:29 am |
That´s not really surprising if we take into account the climate in the British Isles and that in the Mediterranean area 
I think it was Queen Elisabeth I who was an advocate of hygiene and would always say she bathes every month whether she needs it or not 
Well, it´s not only for that reason. You must realize that all of Turkey is not warm all the time. There are large areas that get quite cold.
For the Ottomans, I think it´s more accurate to attribute it to the Islamic religion. Muslims take a complete body cleansing (also called ghusl) on a regular schedule.
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:33 pm |
Thread about surprises..how lovely Read this Caliksu...i hope u will be surprised too
we met with the Turanian civilisation more seriously and in fact, with four different cultures of it, the Tartar, the Turkish, the Cossack and the Muscovite. Each of these has influenced us in a different manner, in some instances quite successfully. Quite apart from the military contacts, which as a rule, protect against such influences, there was a time in Poland when we were very attracted by the Turkish model. Turkey, with its strength was impressive, also with the affluence of the Ottoman court. Particularly in the XIX c. when we did not exist as a state, Turkey did not recognise the partition of Poland and received many of our emigres. Many Poles found lucrative employment in Turkey reaching quite high positions. It was then that Turkishness was in vogue. It was fashionable to dress in a Turkish manner and to blame our political demise on the lack of a strong military organisation in pre-partition Poland.
cited from Prof.Maciej Giertych lecture on culture))))
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:43 pm |
welcome back, cafe 
i just dont unerstand why cossacks and muscovites are included to this group? 
and
how did giertych become a prof? amazing!
Thread about surprises..how lovely Read this Caliksu...i hope u will be surprised too
we met with the Turanian civilisation more seriously and in fact, with four different cultures of it, the Tartar, the Turkish, the Cossack and the Muscovite. Each of these has influenced us in a different manner, in some instances quite successfully. Quite apart from the military contacts, which as a rule, protect against such influences, there was a time in Poland when we were very attracted by the Turkish model. Turkey, with its strength was impressive, also with the affluence of the Ottoman court. Particularly in the XIX c. when we did not exist as a state, Turkey did not recognise the partition of Poland and received many of our emigres. Many Poles found lucrative employment in Turkey reaching quite high positions. It was then that Turkishness was in vogue. It was fashionable to dress in a Turkish manner and to blame our political demise on the lack of a strong military organisation in pre-partition Poland.
cited from Prof.Maciej Giertych lecture on culture))))
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:45 pm |
blah blah blah, alameda. 
yeah, i can imagine caravan robbers being so clean and bathing everyday in what? in sand? 
Well, it´s not only for that reason. You must realize that all of Turkey is not warm all the time. There are large areas that get quite cold.
For the Ottomans, I think it´s more accurate to attribute it to the Islamic religion. Muslims take a complete body cleansing (also called ghusl) on a regular schedule.
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:47 pm |
welcome back, cafe 
i just dont unerstand why cossacks and muscovites are included to this group? 
and
how did giertych become a prof? amazing!
thank you)))the lecture was on Turanian civilisation and its influence on Polish history
I´m trying to suss out how...
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:49 pm |
when you find out then let me know .
thank you)))the lecture was on Turanian civilisation and its influence on Polish history
I´m trying to suss out how...
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:49 pm |
Femme, I think she meant prof Maciej Giertych, the father of Roman The one who argued that the legend of The Dragon from Wawel was a proof for creationism 
Alameda, yeah, that could be an explanation, especially that Islam originated in quite a warm climate 
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:49 pm |
Calikusu,do you really think that people here are historical philistines?Believe me,most are perfectly versed
Thread about surprises..how lovely Read this Caliksu...i hope u will be surprised too
we met with the Turanian civilisation more seriously and in fact, with four different cultures of it, the Tartar, the Turkish, the Cossack and the Muscovite. Each of these has influenced us in a different manner, in some instances quite successfully. Quite apart from the military contacts, which as a rule, protect against such influences, there was a time in Poland when we were very attracted by the Turkish model. Turkey, with its strength was impressive, also with the affluence of the Ottoman court. Particularly in the XIX c. when we did not exist as a state, Turkey did not recognise the partition of Poland and received many of our emigres. Many Poles found lucrative employment in Turkey reaching quite high positions. It was then that Turkishness was in vogue. It was fashionable to dress in a Turkish manner and to blame our political demise on the lack of a strong military organisation in pre-partition Poland.
cited from Prof.Maciej Giertych lecture on culture))))
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26 Jan 2009 Mon 05:58 pm |
gosh, of course, i know the famous clan of highly intelligent people.
im having fun with cafe´s post esp. when she quoted giertych so bravely 
i still wonder how did he become a professor.
Femme, I think she meant prof Maciej Giertych, the father of Roman The one who argued that the legend of The Dragon from Wawel was a proof for creationism 
Alameda, yeah, that could be an explanation, especially that Islam originated in quite a warm climate 
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