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Children Exposed to Racist Propaganda Movie
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30.       azade
1606 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 01:34 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

We were shown horrific film footage of jews in concentration camps in my history lesson, aged 10.  The images of hundreds of bodies being thrown into a grave are still in my head now...and certainly did nothing to improve my education, or nightmares, but certainly did not make me hate germans, only nazis.

 

 

 We were shown those films as well, several times during primary school.

If I close my eyes I can easily recall the images.

 

There are some nazi groups today denying entirely what happened during the war, and I think that the films are shown to the public so that no one will forget the cruelties however it should not be shown to children.

To this day loads of Danes are still skeptical towards Germans.

31.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 02:41 pm

Of course the first thing about this incident is the army´s involvement in it..

Turkish Armed forces have financed everything apperantly. 

 

The second argument will be its content..

 

Almost ever section of this so called documentary mentions ´Armenians who wrote the darkest pages of history´, ´Religion was always a toll for Armenians to terrorize´,  ´Armenian got their identity with the assasinations´, ´history of Armenians are full of genocides done to Turks´, ´Armenians have  traditions of terrorism and assasinations´ etc etc..

 

You can not force 15 million childeren to watch this movie..

You should not be!!

 

This is how fascism enters into education in Turkey. Straight into hearts like a knife..

(Then later on, everybody thinks the way they are thinking is nothing to do with fascism.) 

End of the documentry the conclusion is ´Armenians belongs to an evil race and they should be exterminated straight away´.

Basically we are trying our bests to form a racist, ´enemy of armenians, enemy of the israel, enemy of west´ youth.

And all these are done under the name of patriotism and Turkishness..

 

If this is not a sheer alltogether racism then what it is?..

That is how you create racist killers from childeren.

That is why the guy who killed Hrant Dink shouted proudly to the cameras ´I have killed an Armenian´.

32.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 04:14 pm

 As strange as it feels, I agree with some of the things you said. It is rare that we agree. I don´t thin this is something that should be shown to kids in a school environment, especially at an age when they cannot make proper judgements without being influenced. I am not against the army funding it or the video itself existing. However, if parents feel like their children should see this video, they should  be the ones to make that decision. Not the army or the Ministery of Education. Parents can always go out and buy the video, and show it in the privacy of their homes. School  is not the place for this sort of documentary unless they are willing to show other documnetaries representing the opposing views.

Quoting thehandsom

Of course the first thing about this incident is the army´s involvement in it..

Turkish Armed forces have financed everything apperantly. 

 

The second argument will be its content..

 

Almost ever section of this so called documentary mentions ´Armenians who wrote the darkest pages of history´, ´Religion was always a toll for Armenians to terrorize´,  ´Armenian got their identity with the assasinations´, ´history of Armenians are full of genocides done to Turks´, ´Armenians have  traditions of terrorism and assasinations´ etc etc..

 

You can not force 15 million childeren to watch this movie..

You should not be!!

 

This is how fascism enters into education in Turkey. Straight into hearts like a knife..

(Then later on, everybody thinks the way they are thinking is nothing to do with fascism.) 

End of the documentry the conclusion is ´Armenians belongs to an evil race and they should be exterminated straight away´.

Basically we are trying our bests to form a racist, ´enemy of armenians, enemy of the israel, enemy of west´ youth.

And all these are done under the name of patriotism and Turkishness..

 

If this is not a sheer alltogether racism then what it is?..

That is how you create racist killers from childeren.

That is why the guy who killed Hrant Dink shouted proudly to the cameras ´I have killed an Armenian´.

 

 

33.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:20 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Of course the first thing about this incident is the army´s involvement in it..

Turkish Armed forces have financed everything apperantly. 

I don´t see anything wrong with it. Army has huge archives regarding this issue. Why not share them with us.

 

The second argument will be its content..

 

Almost ever section of this so called documentary mentions ´Armenians who wrote the darkest pages of history´, ´Religion was always a toll for Armenians to terrorize´,  ´Armenian got their identity with the assasinations´, ´history of Armenians are full of genocides done to Turks´, ´Armenians have  traditions of terrorism and assasinations´ etc etc..

I haven´t watched it (yet) but I think I will. I am curious if they put it that way. Because I don´t believe you.

Anyway Armenians killed muslims. And they started it all first. We lived with them in peace until then.

 

You can not force 15 million childeren to watch this movie..

You should not be!!

Nobody forces anybody. That´s not intented for kids anyway. It´s an educational material for teachers so say ministry of education.

 

This is how fascism enters into education in Turkey. Straight into hearts like a knife..

(Then later on, everybody thinks the way they are thinking is nothing to do with fascism.) 

End of the documentry the conclusion is ´Armenians belongs to an evil race and they should be exterminated straight away´.

Basically we are trying our bests to form a racist, ´enemy of armenians, enemy of the israel, enemy of west´ youth.

And all these are done under the name of patriotism and Turkishness..

I have nothing against Armenians. I don´t remember being educated so against Armenians. But apperantly they do against us. I can see and feel their hatred. Eveywhere. So how can it happen?

 

If this is not a sheer alltogether racism then what it is?..

That is how you create racist killers from childeren.

That is why the guy who killed Hrant Dink shouted proudly to the cameras ´I have killed an Armenian´.

That´s an unfortunate event.

 

 

What I don´t understand is why are you stirring things up like an Armenian here? Are you Armenian actually? ´cause you are just acting as one here. You defend them just like an Armenian. And you easily get going after a statement against them. I can feel your discomfort on this issue.

34.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:38 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

What I don´t understand is why are you stirring things up like an Armenian here? Are you Armenian actually? ´cause you are just acting as one here. You defend them just like an Armenian. And you easily get going after a statement against them. I can feel your discomfort on this issue.

 

I guess this part your post is not related to topic itself..

I am sure Canli will come and delete your post for that reason...

I am adding you into the  ´members who are obsessed with certain individuals´ list.. 

35.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:49 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I guess this part your post is not related to topic itself..

I am sure Canli will come and delete your post for that reason...

I am adding you into the  ´members who are obsessed with certain individuals´ list.. 

 

You make me ask it that way. I saw CANLI in the past asking the same question to you. Apperantly she thought the same things about you.

36.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 05:54 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

You make me ask it that way. I saw CANLI in the past asking the same question to you. Apperantly she thought the same things about you.

 

Again, it is nothing to do with the topic..

Ohh..are you saying that Canli herself has been going off the topic? (and I am sheepishly waiting for canli to come and sort this out.. )

I have added your name in that list with a pencil and now I am looking for a pen...

37.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:00 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Again, it is nothing to do with the topic..

Ohh..are you saying that Canli herself has been going off the topic? (and I am sheepishly waiting for canli to come and sort this out.. )

I have added your name in that list with a pencil and now I am looking for a pen...

 

Who cares? I had added you to my list long time ago. You are late.

38.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:02 pm

you both will see when Canli wakes up..lol lol

39.       si++
3785 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:05 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

you both will see when Canli wakes up..

 

Yeah, let´s wait and see, mr nice guy.

40.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Feb 2009 Sat 06:09 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Yeah, let´s wait and see, mr nice guy.

 

Well that is what she said to me when she was deleting my posts..

If she does not delete yours, she will be in a difficult situation to explain why she deleted what she deleted..

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