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Ablative case explanation
1.       Irishclove
111 posts
 24 Mar 2009 Tue 04:37 pm

Below is the exercise provided by the class.  I am not quite sure I understand the difference.  Can someone please enlighten me?  The only posible difference i see is the use of "dan" instead of "den" which is due to major vowel harmony based on the last vowel in the word.   Why is okul different and how? Thank you.

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The ablative case has four version, -den, dan, -ten, -tan. It means "from".

 

If you would add the ablative case to the four nouns below, they would mean: "from holiday", "from school", "from home", "from the sea".  

 

Only one of them takes a different version of the ablative case. Which one is it? Try to explain to yourself the reason for it.

A. tatil (Correct answer is okul)
B. okul
C. ev
D. deniz


Edited (3/24/2009) by Irishclove

2.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Mar 2009 Tue 05:02 pm

 

Quoting Irishclove

Below is the exercise provided by the class.  I am not quite sure I understand the difference.  Can someone please enlighten me?  The only posible difference i see is the use of "dan" instead of "den" which is due to major vowel harmony based on the last vowel in the word.   Why is okul different and how? Thank you.

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The ablative case has four version, -den, dan, -ten, -tan. It means "from".

 

If you would add the ablative case to the four nouns below, they would mean: "from holiday", "from school", "from home", "from the sea".  

 

Only one of them takes a different version of the ablative case. Which one is it? Try to explain to yourself the reason for it.

A. tatil (Correct answer is okul)
B. okul
C. ev
D. deniz

maybe you should read about major vowel harmony again:

http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_59

 

Hard Soft
a e
ý i
o ö
u ü

 

you see the hard and soft vowels above. Only "okul" has a hard vowel in the last syllable, so it becomes "okuldan" while others become "tatilden", "denizden", "evden".

3.       Irishclove
111 posts
 24 Mar 2009 Tue 05:54 pm

 

Quoting dilliduduk

 

maybe you should read about major vowel harmony again:

http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_59

 

Hard Soft
a e
ý i
o ö
u ü

 

you see the hard and soft vowels above. Only "okul" has a hard vowel in the last syllable, so it becomes "okuldan" while others become "tatilden", "denizden", "evden".

 Thanks, you are basically confirming my initial thought.  However, I did not consider the use of proper major vowel harmony a difference, so I just clicked an answer just to see what the response will be.  I guess I read into it too much.

 

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