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Honour Killings and Suicides
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26 Mar 2009 Thu 11:31 am |
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Western media calls them as kurds. but if they do something bad in europe, suddenly they become turk on the news papers DD
This sounds like Turkish paranoia. The reason the word "kurds" appears a lot in western media is because of PKK activities. This is mostly the only time that Turkey hits the headlines! By the very nature of the PKK party, they are OF COURSE referred to as Kurds as they are the Kurdistan Workers Party!!!
"If they do something bad in europe, suddenly they become Turk"???? So being a terrorist organisation is not "bad"?
If anything is in the media about Turkey generally then they are OF COURSE referred to as Turks.
Edited (3/26/2009) by TheAenigma
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26 Mar 2009 Thu 06:08 pm |
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This sounds like Turkish paranoia. The reason the word "kurds" appears a lot in western media is because of PKK activities. This is mostly the only time that Turkey hits the headlines! By the very nature of the PKK party, they are OF COURSE referred to as Kurds as they are the Kurdistan Workers Party!!!
"If they do something bad in europe, suddenly they become Turk"???? So being a terrorist organisation is not "bad"?
If anything is in the media about Turkey generally then they are OF COURSE referred to as Turks.
we see what western countries think about kurdish issue from maps. that shows turkey divided into 2 parts.
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26 Mar 2009 Thu 06:17 pm |
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This sounds like Turkish paranoia.
oh sure, this map is also just Turkish paranoia.
  
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26 Mar 2009 Thu 06:38 pm |
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oh sure, this map is also just Turkish paranoia.
sure we are not normal
we are paranoiac...
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26 Mar 2009 Thu 07:06 pm |
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oh sure, this map is also just Turkish paranoia.
What is the source of your map? Where has it come from? I am interested because I am quite sure this is not an ordinary map, but that you googled "Kurdistan" and found this!!! I could google "Ottoman Empire" and find a map of that too! There is no region or country officially called "Kurdistan" and therefore does not appear on standard geographical maps.
Edited (3/26/2009) by TheAenigma
Edited (3/26/2009) by TheAenigma
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| 26. |
26 Mar 2009 Thu 08:15 pm |
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Thanks DD...it was as I suspected then
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26 Mar 2009 Thu 08:33 pm |
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Thanks DD...it was as I suspected then
bir þey deðil
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27 Mar 2009 Fri 03:29 am |
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Ummmm....actually if you read the text you might get a little different idea, and have some understanding why some people are nervous:
" Kurdistan is an area in the Middle East, inhabited mainly by the Kurds. Kurdistan covers parts of Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Georgia and Syria. The borders of Kurdistan are hard to define, as none of the states in question acknowledge Kurdistan as a demographic or geographical region. There is a province of Kurdistan in Iran.
Before World War I, most Kurds lived within the boundaries of the Ottoman Empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Allies created several countries within its former boundaries. Originally Kurdistan, along with Armenia was to be one of them, according to the Treaty of S�vres. However, the reconquest of these areas by Kemal Atat�rk and other pressing issues caused the Allies to accept the renegotiated Treaty of Lausanne, returning this territory to Turkey. Other Kurdish areas were assigned to the new states of Iraq and Syria under both treaties. These boundaries were drawn with more concern for the division of oil resources and influence between different colonial powers and for rewarding pro-Allied Arab leaders than for ethnic distributions.
Since then, Kurds have been divided between several states, in each of which they are minorities. Many Kurds have campaigned for independence or autonomy since then, but there has been no support by any of the regional governments or by outside powers for changes in regional boundaries. A sizeable Kurdish diaspora exists in Western Europe that participates in agitation for Kurdish issues, but most of the governments in the Middle East have historically banned open Kurdish activism."
That in conjunction with:
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East”
"The Turkish Protest at NATO’s Military College in Rome
Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters’ map of the “New Middle East” has sparked angry reactions in Turkey. According to Turkish press releases on September 15, 2006 the map of the “New Middle East” was displayed in NATO’s Military College in Rome, Italy. It was additionally reported that Turkish officers were immediately outraged by the presentation of a portioned and segmented Turkey.8 The map received some form of approval from the U.S. National War Academy before it was unveiled in front of NATO officers in Rome."
map here
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27 Mar 2009 Fri 09:00 am |
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Ummmm....actually if you read the text you might get a little different idea, and have some understanding why some people are nervous:
" Kurdistan is an area in the Middle East, inhabited mainly by the Kurds. Kurdistan covers parts of Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Georgia and Syria. The borders of Kurdistan are hard to define, as none of the states in question acknowledge Kurdistan as a demographic or geographical region. There is a province of Kurdistan in Iran.
Before World War I, most Kurds lived within the boundaries of the Ottoman Empire. After the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, the Allies created several countries within its former boundaries. Originally Kurdistan, along with Armenia was to be one of them, according to the Treaty of S�vres. However, the reconquest of these areas by Kemal Atat�rk and other pressing issues caused the Allies to accept the renegotiated Treaty of Lausanne, returning this territory to Turkey. Other Kurdish areas were assigned to the new states of Iraq and Syria under both treaties. These boundaries were drawn with more concern for the division of oil resources and influence between different colonial powers and for rewarding pro-Allied Arab leaders than for ethnic distributions.
Since then, Kurds have been divided between several states, in each of which they are minorities. Many Kurds have campaigned for independence or autonomy since then, but there has been no support by any of the regional governments or by outside powers for changes in regional boundaries. A sizeable Kurdish diaspora exists in Western Europe that participates in agitation for Kurdish issues, but most of the governments in the Middle East have historically banned open Kurdish activism."
That in conjunction with:
Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East”
"The Turkish Protest at NATO’s Military College in Rome
Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters’ map of the “New Middle East” has sparked angry reactions in Turkey. According to Turkish press releases on September 15, 2006 the map of the “New Middle East” was displayed in NATO’s Military College in Rome, Italy. It was additionally reported that Turkish officers were immediately outraged by the presentation of a portioned and segmented Turkey.8 The map received some form of approval from the U.S. National War Academy before it was unveiled in front of NATO officers in Rome."
map here
Thanks Alameda!
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27 Mar 2009 Fri 09:02 am |
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Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East”
"The Turkish Protest at NATO’s Military College in Rome
Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters’ map of the “New Middle East” has sparked angry reactions in Turkey. According to Turkish press releases on September 15, 2006 the map of the “New Middle East” was displayed in NATO’s Military College in Rome, Italy. It was additionally reported that Turkish officers were immediately outraged by the presentation of a portioned and segmented Turkey.8 The map received some form of approval from the U.S. National War Academy before it was unveiled in front of NATO officers in Rome."
map here
Is this what you suspected, Ms. Aenigma?
yes it`s all about Turkish paranoia.
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