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Law allows foreigners to adopt Turk children
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31 Mar 2009 Tue 09:49 pm |
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The word "anti" is a bit dramatic ............. it is just not my way of doing things but I don´t have a problem with those who do.
In my opinion the rights of the child is not the primary consideration in many of these cases (single adoptions, gay adoptions etc etc) but the selfishness of the person (s) doing the adoption.
Sure. And when you got your child(ren) it was not selfish? You thought ´Hey, how can I help the world with this baby?´ - Nonsense!
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31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:42 pm |
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Sure. And when you got your child(ren) it was not selfish? You thought ´Hey, how can I help the world with this baby?´ - Nonsense!
My opinion = nonsense
Your opinion = nonsense
therefore we are equal with our opinions 
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31 Mar 2009 Tue 10:44 pm |
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My opinion = nonsense
Your opinion = nonsense
therefore we are equal with our opinions
Free to Orwell: some is more nonsense than others. 
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 02:57 am |
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I see no problem with outside adoption IF there are not enough nationals willing and able to adopt. Why let a child rot in an orphanage just to ensure they stay in their homeland?
I have a friend (a single woman) who adopted a Chinese girl. This child was in horrible condition when she was adopted. She was sickly, she could not stand to be touched or held because in the orphanage she was left in her crib day after day….only picked up to be fed or changed.
Three years later, the girl is absolutely thriving! Her mother has ensured that she is aware of her Chinese culture and kept her Chinese name. I can’t help but wonder what her fate would have been if someone from the outside hadn’t come to give her the love and nurturing that she was lacking in the orphanage.
As for the anti - single parent/anti-gay adoption folks out there  …..how many horrible parents have we all seen that fit the bill of two parents, opposite sex? PLENTY! A loving home is a loving home….straight, gay, or single!
Ãt takes 2 persons to make a child, male and female, not something else
And that is the normal nature healthy environment for any child, even if the home was a loving home and it lack one of those elements, that would effect the child psychological health.
That is how things are, that is what science said, and that is also the reason of many social problems you can find in the community where the percentage of single parent is much.
Of course if you ´general´ were put into a situation that you are a single parent, one would do his best for the sake of his/her child
But if we are to establish a good environment for a child, then we wont start from second best, we should build normal one for them where they can have healthy life there
And that would be in a family with both parents, not a single one.
Of course, the fate of that kid wouldnt be nice at all, but the question, why should it be an outsider ?!
Your friend was good and has a good understading thats is why she kept her name and educated her about her culture
But how about others, who want to buy a child because they couldnt do it back home ?
Would they educate the child about his/ her culture and be as good as your friend ?
à doubt it !
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 03:09 am |
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I guess you have to divide it into two different groups:
(i) those foreigners who come to Turkey to get a child, and then take it away to their new country
(ii) those foreigners who live here long term, and who end up getting close to and looking after a child, but have never been allowed to formally adopt.
Most of your negative comments are about case (i).
I have three friends who fall under case (ii). Let me tell you the story of one of them.
One of their neighbours had a young toddler. She wasn´t coping very well. So they used to look after the child and babysit, and take the child out with there own children. Then one day the neighbour had to go into hospital. She asked them to look after her child while she was ill, as her husband was at work all the time. They did this. When she came out of hospital, she and her husband wanted to move to another city, but not take the child with them. She said "you help my child, would you be willing to look after her?" My friends were scared this could become a legal nightmare so they agreed, but only if social services were involved and said it was OK. Social services said you can only foster, foreigners cant adopt, even if the parents are willing.
So they have looked after C for nine years now. Every time mum visits it is clear she has a drink problem, and she cannot make a good relationship with C because she does erratic things that scare her. My friends love C and treat her like their own children. She is happy in the family. But they all know that anytime her mother can come and take her back, and that is very unsettling.
Not all adoption cases are like Madonna!
Yes Marion, but how such case can be fixed ?!
à mean would the state agree on adoption for foreigners and make them sign papres never to leave Türkiye untill the child be old enough to understand her culture so she never forget her roots and who she is ?!
Ãts not logic.
The case of that parent is not normal really, who would leave his child for nine years, and if she had to, then she should have left her to her family or something
But clearly she is not a normal person
They can make an agreement between them and the mother, legal one that she cant take the child away from them at any time and they raise her as their own child but at same time she keeps her name and identity till the time child be old enough to decide where she wants to live and with whom
So the kid wouldnt be adopted and lost her identity and at same time the mother cant take her whenever she likes after leaving her all that time !
Just a thought!
But allowing adoption for foreigners is like the State selling her own children, im sorry but that is how i see it.
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 10:44 am |
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Good news for kids whose parents are dead or unable to support them. The next step is changing the law to make it possible for singles to adopt. I wonder though if gay people (married or not) ever can adopt... 
I am available for adoption, any under 35 lesbians with maternal instincts?
Both parents already deceased, no possibility of come backs.
Edited (4/1/2009) by AlphaF
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:05 am |
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Sure. And when you got your child(ren) it was not selfish? You thought ´Hey, how can I help the world with this baby?´ - Nonsense!
mwaaaaaaaah!!!
her selfishness doesnt know the borders.
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 11:06 am |
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I agree with Libra.In my opinion all conditions should be provided to facilitate children´s growth in their homeland in terms of care,education,foster parents,etc...
And I do agree that a child needs two parents of opposite sex...
rubbish. ooops, forbidden words 
Edited (4/1/2009) by femmeous
[im forced to]
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 12:02 pm |
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full of b*******. ooops, forbidden words
As you well know!! 
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion femme - even if you don´t agree with it! Actually I don´t either - I think if it is a question of culture over a horrible existence in - for example - a war-torn country or a country where children are literally left to rot´ in archaic orphanages - then getting them out of there wins over worries about whether they will lose there ´cultural background´ every time. My opinion.
Anyway...could you make your post a little more polite please? Thanks 
Thank you femmeous 
Edited (4/1/2009) by lady in red
Edited (4/1/2009) by lady in red
[message to femme]
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 02:54 pm |
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No, I did not get any applications so far. 
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01 Apr 2009 Wed 04:31 pm |
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As you well know!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion femme - even if you don´t agree with it! Actually I don´t either - I think if it is a question of culture over a horrible existence in - for example - a war-torn country or a country where children are literally left to rot´ in archaic orphanages - then getting them out of there wins over worries about whether they will lose there ´cultural background´ every time. My opinion.
Anyway...could you make your post a little more polite please? Thanks
hmmmm cultural background...... what about that? is a person without any ethnic cultural background is a less person?
culture, nation, all that blah blah. well, let them rotten in the orphanange then but with a pride of nation that cant give them a better childhood.
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