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1.       zbrct
90 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 05:11 pm

Man assaulted for missionary activities


ISTANBUL – AFP
Tuesday, August 4, 2009


 

 

A 24-year-old street seller assaulted a man on the grounds that he was proselytizing Christianity, holding a knife to his throat in Istanbul before surrendering to police, newspapers reported Tuesday.

The incident, the latest in a string of religiously-motivated attacks in Turkey in recent years, happened Monday on a busy avenue in Istanbul´s Kadiköy district, before the eyes of dozens of passersby.

The assailant – identified as 24-year-old pirate CD vendor – wrapped a Turkish flag around the head of Ýsmail Aydýn, 35, put a knife to his throat and shouted, "This is Turkey, you cannot distribute Bibles here," Habertürk newspaper said.

The stand-off lasted 20 minutes before the police persuaded the assailant to surrender, according to the daily Sabah.

The street vendor later told police he was angry with Aydýn for converting to Christianity and engaging in missionary activities, Sabah reported, while the daily Vatan suggested the assailant was mentally disturbed.

Proselytizing is generally viewed with suspicion in Turkey, whose population is predominantly Muslim, with small Greek Orthodox, Catholic, Armenian and Jewish communities, concentrated in Istanbul.

An Italian Roman Catholic priest was shot dead in 2006 and three Protestants – a German missionary and two Turkish converts – had their throats cut in 2007.

Two Catholic priests have been stabbed and several churches have reported harassment and threats.

The incidents have fueled fears of rising nationalism and hostility against non-Muslims in Turkey. 

© 2009 Hurriyet Daily News
URL: www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkish-man-assaulted-for-missionary-activities-report-2009-08-04

 

2.       Trudy
7887 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 06:50 pm

What I would like to know from you, zbrct, is your opinion. Not just an article. Oh, I expect you to say you despise attacks but do you agree with the assailant that in Turkey one cannot distribute Bibles? And if people still do, how can they protect themselves? Should the state / police be involved with this? Can you answer questions like that, please?

3.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 07:03 pm

 He (zbrct) is used to trow a ”bomb” and let us fight on oppinions. He stays now waiting..watching.. I refuse to take part at these kind of discutions!



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4.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 07:07 pm

Is zbrct the new Roswitha?  Unsure

5.       vineyards
1954 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 07:17 pm

If you are devoid of reason and common sense, you often stick to a cause to make up for your shortcomings. Generalizing on these matters is equally wrong and just provides for an example to thinking by stimuli. It is impossible to have a sound and profound understanding of the events taking place in society if your equation goes like Turk + knife = freedom lost. True intolerance towards other belief systems has been an age old problem. There are many ways to maim free speech in this matter. The one that was performed by that lunatic in the street is a personal attack caused by the presence of an ignorant group of people within the country and is dwarved in regards of significance by the designs of those waging the war of civilizations.

 

Freedom of speech is controlled by people who are way wiser than this hippy. When you are able to control the stereotypes in people´s minds, you don´t need to run in the streets with a knife in your hand.

 

 

6.       kaddersokak
130 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 08:30 pm

I am a Muslim and I know that there is not a offical ban on missionary activities in Turkey but some Turkish people and Turkish army are suspicious of missionary activities in Turkey. I believe in freedom and I believe in religious freedoom. Muslims are allowed to convert Europeans into Islam in European countries and when a Christian converts in to Islam Turkish people get very very happy. So I believe that if Muslims are allowed to propogate their religion in Europe, Christian missionaries should have the same right in Turkey.

 

7.       Trudy
7887 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 08:42 pm

 

Quoting kaddersokak

I am a Muslim and I know that there is not a offical ban on missionary activities in Turkey but some Turkish people and Turkish army are suspicious of missionary activities in Turkey. I believe in freedom and I believe in religious freedoom. Muslims are allowed to convert Europeans into Islam in European countries and when a Christian converts in to Islam Turkish people get very very happy. So I believe that if Muslims are allowed to propogate their religion in Europe, Christian missionaries should have the same right in Turkey.

 

 

 The first I can only agree with. I´m absolutely not religious but when - on this forum - I told in 2007 I was coming to a certain city in central Anatolia, I immediately got pm´s of a member who said she like to meet me but erm... I wasn´t into missionairy acitivities, was I? I have no idea how that member got the idea that I was ´selling´ any religion, and when asked I got an answer like about this ´all Westerners coming to my city are missionaries.....´. Eh?

 

The second I agree on to (if I have to right to refuse to anyone trying to convert me into whatever - like Jehova witnesses calling door-to-door), but I´m afraid a lot of Muslims will not agree with you. Maybe I´m wrong - tell me please - but I´ve heard of groups that kill Muslim who convert into Christianity  because it´s forbidden according to the Koran (they say).



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8.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 09:06 pm

I think its not about religion...I think all is hidding some complexes of the agressor....

9.       zbrct
90 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 10:07 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

What I would like to know from you, zbrct, is your opinion. Not just an article. Oh, I expect you to say you despise attacks but do you agree with the assailant that in Turkey one cannot distribute Bibles? And if people still do, how can they protect themselves? Should the state / police be involved with this? Can you answer questions like that, please?

 

 How can I agree with a monster? Please look at the picture again...Do you think I am a person like that person?

10.       Trudy
7887 posts
 04 Aug 2009 Tue 10:11 pm

 

Quoting zbrct

 

 

 How can I agree with a monster? Please look at the picture again...Do you think I am a person like that person?

 

 Read (and answer) the other questions please, instead of only dropping texts. I already said I assumed you would not agree with this man, but how about his religious thoughts?

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