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pronounciation question
1.       cedars
235 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 12:58 am

I would appreciate if someone would help in answering my question concerning the pronounciation of the word Kumkapý and Topkapý.

 

During our recent tour in Ýstanbul, our arabic speaking guide from antakya pronounced the word kapý with a heavy K similar to arabic Qaf. So basically he pronounced kumkapý as KumQapý with an obvious difference between the first K and the second k.

 

Is it just the antioch accent or is it comon in turkish?

 

Thank you for your help.

2.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 30 Aug 2009 Sun 03:32 am

 

Quoting cedars

I would appreciate if someone would help in answering my question concerning the pronounciation of the word Kumkapý and Topkapý.

 

During our recent tour in Ýstanbul, our arabic speaking guide from antakya pronounced the word kapý with a heavy K similar to arabic Qaf. So basically he pronounced kumkapý as KumQapý with an obvious difference between the first K and the second k.

 

Is it just the antioch accent or is it comon in turkish?

 

Thank you for your help.

 

There isn`t such a pronounciation of "k" in Turkish.  Those people with a Kurdish or Arabic background usually have a bitter accent. It`s like listening to English from a Mexican immigrant.



Edited (8/30/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

3.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 01 Sep 2009 Tue 09:15 pm

I had that problem with yok... There seem to be a million different ways of saying the k in that word

4.       cedars
235 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 12:49 pm

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

There isn`t such a pronounciation of "k" in Turkish.  Those people with a Kurdish or Arabic background usually have a bitter accent. It`s like listening to English from a Mexican immigrant.

 

Thank you mhsn for your reply. I had the feeling that it is more than a "bitter accent"  issue. May be it is an accent inherited from the ottomans era I donno.

 

For example the word Kadiköy was pronounced as Qadi Köy by our antakian guide. It was logical for me since it means basically  the judge´s village (Qadi = judge in arabic and Köy is village in turkish)

 

Anyways,  I find turkish, arabic, hebrew, kurdish , persian, and aramaic  languages  to be very beautiful, a mixture of them  brings me joy to the ears

 

5.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 10:49 pm

 

Quoting cedars

 

 

Thank you mhsn for your reply. I had the feeling that it is more than a "bitter accent"  issue. May be it is an accent inherited from the ottomans era I donno.

 

For example the word Kadiköy was pronounced as Qadi Köy by our antakian guide. It was logical for me since it means basically  the judge´s village (Qadi = judge in arabic and Köy is village in turkish)

 

Anyways,  I find turkish, arabic, hebrew, kurdish , persian, and aramaic  languages  to be very beautiful, a mixture of them  brings me joy to the ears

 

 

 

 

I don`t even get what you`re talking about, the "k"s in "Kadi" and "Koy" are pronounced exactly the same way. There isn`t any variation of that sound in Turkish. If the guide pronounced it differently, that means it`s just his accent.

6.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 03 Sep 2009 Thu 12:54 pm

I know what kind of accent you mean. Some people pronounce some K´s with more air (don´t know how to explain it). So then the K in koy becomes an...airy K I´m confusing myself here

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