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I was trying to translate a sentence from english to turkish, but I know that there is a difference between BÃT and BÃTÃR.
When should I use bitirmek ?
ex: Bugün ödevimi bitirmeyi ( bitimeyi) planlýyor.
thanks in advance
Here is the difference between bit and bitir:
Bit(mek) is a reflexive verb (in the Romance languages,pseudo-reflexive) . Bitir(mek) is its transitive form.
(1) ödev bitti
(2) ödevimi bitirdim
In (1), the subject is the patient of the action,i.e.it is the thing affected by the action, not the one that performs it. In (2), the subject is the agent of the action finishing the homework.In fact, the patient is the same in both sentences...
We use -(d)ir suffix to transfer a verb from reflexive to transitive:
bit(mek) - bit.ir(mek)
bat(mak) - bat.ýr(mak)
kan(mak) - kan.dýr(mak)
deðiþ(mek) - deðiþ.tir(mek)
Giving an example in English will make it easier to understand:
(1) The cup broke
(2) I broke the cup
Another example in Turkish, Spanish and English:
Tekne battý
El barco se hundió
The boat sank
This is not the same as passive voice.
Tekne (korsanlar tarafýndan) batýrýldý.
El barco fue hundido (por pirates).
The boat was sunk (by pirates)
Edited (9/26/2009) by upsy_daisy
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Maybe it was not necessary to make it so complicated,.. but I had time to kill,and energy to burn, besides I didn´t want the learners to get misinformation that some here love to spout! 