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Behind the veil: Why Islam´s most visible symbol is spreading
1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 15 Dec 2009 Tue 10:32 pm

Rarely in human history has a piece of cloth been assigned so many roles. Been embroiled in so much controversy. Been so misjudged, misunderstood, and manipulated.

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2009/1213/Behind-the-veil-Why-Islam-s-most-visible-symbol-is-spreading

2.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 15 Dec 2009 Tue 11:35 pm

veil is not islamic, it is traditional, in islam there is "tesettür", in tesettür hands and face may be open.



Edited (12/15/2009) by ikicihan

3.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 15 Dec 2009 Tue 11:43 pm

from the book "a concise fiqh, essential islamic teachings" by fazilet publishing

 

"Covering of the Private Area (Satr al-awrah)

 

...

The private area of a male is between the navel and the knees, while that of a female is the entire body except for the hands up to the wrists, the feet up to the ankles, and the face."

 

 

4.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Dec 2009 Wed 03:45 am

 

Quoting Roswitha

Rarely in human history has a piece of cloth been assigned so many roles. Been embroiled in so much controversy. Been so misjudged, misunderstood, and manipulated.

 

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2009/1213/Behind-the-veil-Why-Islam-s-most-visible-symbol-is-spreading

 

Just starting to read the article now, but I found this below,  which I believe to be inaccurate:

 

"In the first half of the 20th century, for example, secular-oriented leaders in Turkey and Iran who were keen to modernize their countries along Western lines banned the veil in public – "

 

I don´t believe that statement is true.  Iran banned the veil in public and did remove them by force.  That tactic was not used in Turkey.  Please correct me if I´m wrong. 

 

5.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 16 Dec 2009 Wed 11:12 am

I have no problem with scarfs and such... and face veils...well, they irritate me a bit since I like to see somebody´s expression. You can learn so much from somebody´s body (- and face) language. If a woman makes the choice to wear one all by herself, without any pressure from outside (highly unlikely, but whatever...) then I have no problem with it. I don´t think that missing out on the world, never feeling a breeze of wind on your skin, is fully enjoying your life and appreciating the wonders of the world. To me it seems you shelter yourself too much from the outside, like a bubble. But in the end, it is not for me to decide...each her their own. With emphasis on HER own...or his... I´m not sexist

 

The only thing that REALLY irritates me are the hypo-headscarfs The girls who wear a mini-skirt with thight leggings under it, while wearing a headscarf (yes I´ve seen them many times). At the same time these type of girls like to (in general) comment on girls that are Muslim but not covered, that they´re not being ´muslim´ enough.

 

How about covering your ...uhum... "behind" before you cover you hair/face/wrists?

6.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 16 Dec 2009 Wed 01:46 pm

"In the first half of the 20th century, for example, secular-oriented leaders in Turkey and Iran who were keen to modernize their countries along Western lines banned the veil in public – "

 

i have no idea about iran but as long as i know, any kind of women cloth never banned in turkey in public. state schools and military dont accept something but it is not public.

7.       alameda
3499 posts
 16 Dec 2009 Wed 08:39 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

"In the first half of the 20th century, for example, secular-oriented leaders in Turkey and Iran who were keen to modernize their countries along Western lines banned the veil in public – "

 

i have no idea about iran but as long as i know, any kind of women cloth never banned in turkey in public. state schools and military dont accept something but it is not public.

 

From my research on the subject, it appears that in Iran the veil was illegal in public, and it was removed by force if any woman dared to wear one in public.  Numerous women had their chadors and veils removed by force, the veils and chadors were also destroyed, all this taking place in public. 

 

Attaturk did not institute such policies, he instead put in place policies to discourage the wearing of such articles of clothing, and one could not get a government job when wearing a head covering.  Of course, we have heard of the protests in Universities and schools regarding the "turban".

 

The ripping off of veils from the women caused the fermentation of deep resentment that contributed greatly to the Iranian Revolution of 1979

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