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Muscat Grapes and Mulberries in Turkey?
1.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Dec 2009 Tue 01:53 am

I was looking at photos and saw one by Slavica that looked like muscat grapes.  When I looked muscat grapes up, it seems they are grown in Turkey. Does anyone know what they are called in Turkish?  I would like to know how to ask for them.  If I wanted to purchase raisens made out of them, what would I ask for? Does anyone know what the top season is for them? IOW what part of the year would the markets be full of them?

 

Turkish dried golden mulberries are fantastic.  I believe the Turkish word is dut. The taste is like a blend of malted milk and caramel, they melt in one´s mouth with a little crunch. I bought a bunch of them when I was in Central Alatolia, and would really love to taste them when they are fresh. What is the best season for them?

 

Muscat grapes

 

 

2.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Dec 2009 Wed 11:54 am

Misket üzümü but I don´t think you can find it outside the regions it is grown. Maybe, it is easier to find it in Ankara. There are subspecies of misket like iri taneli, kokulu etc.

3.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Dec 2009 Wed 08:15 pm

Thank you vineyards....

 

.....somehow I knew you would now the answer to that question Smile...but could you elaborate on the ect part of your reply? Muscat grapes are very special, they have a scent and subtle taste. I imagine around mid to late Summer would be top season for them. Any ideas about Mullberries?

 

Quoting vineyards

Misket üzümü but I don´t think you can find it outside the regions it is grown. Maybe, it is easier to find it in Ankara. There are subspecies of misket like iri taneli, kokulu etc.

 

 

4.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Dec 2009 Wed 10:24 pm

Taste is not easy to describe. I try to stay away from those unearthly definitions of grape variatels. I think the satisfaction a perfect glass of wine is undescribable.

 

As for Muscat, yes it is a special grape. Nevertheless, I am not a white wine enthusiast. When I drink white for a change, I might prefer Muscat because of its nice scent and taste. As a matter of fact, there is another domestic white grape called Sultaniye, it produces dry wines. 

 

These are the grapes native to Turkey:

 

Öküzgözü

Boğazkere

Adakarası

Lahne

Kalecik Karası

Horoz Karası

Çalkarası

Papazkarası

 

Narince

Sultaniye

Emir

Misket

Rumi

 



Edited (12/23/2009) by vineyards

5.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Dec 2009 Thu 08:10 pm

I always thought Muscat was a light green grape, but it seems there are many colors.

 

"The breadth and number of varieties of muscat suggest that it is perhaps the oldest domesticated grape variety, and there are theories that most families within the Vitis vinifera   Indeed, scientists from the University of Pennsylvania have analyzed pots from King Midas´s burial mound and determined that Muscat grapes were a key component of the alcoholic beverage served at his funeral feast. grape family are descended from the Muscat family."

 

I would be curious to taste the different ones to realize the difference.  I am not fond of wine, tried it in the past, but it really bothers my throat and stomach so much I never developed a taste for it, so there is nothing I can say about it.  It amazes me that anyone would like it.  All alchoholic beverages burn and cause me serious acid indigestion.  It would be really nice to have the chance to taste some of the different grapes products. We have a lot of winemakers here who have wine tasting tours, it would be nice if they addes other grape products to the tours so none wine drinkers could partake of the bounty of the grapes.

 

There is the part of the fermentation process before it becomes alcoholic that I like.  One sometimes finds fruits that are in that process.  Olive oil tasting has become more common now, it´s amazing the different tastes one finds.

 

Quoting vineyards

Taste is not easy to describe. I try to stay away from those unearthly definitions of grape variatels. I think the satisfaction a perfect glass of wine is undescribable.

 

As for Muscat, yes it is a special grape. Nevertheless, I am not a white wine enthusiast. When I drink white for a change, I might prefer Muscat because of its nice scent and taste. As a matter of fact, there is another domestic white grape called Sultaniye, it produces dry wines. 

 

These are the grapes native to Turkey:

 

Öküzgözü

Boğazkere

Adakarası

Lahne

Kalecik Karası

Horoz Karası

Çalkarası

Papazkarası

 

Narince

Sultaniye

Emir

Misket

Rumi

 

 

 

6.       Pita
27 posts
 24 Dec 2009 Thu 09:37 pm

you could try jams or jellies they would be wonderful and easy to make and can be used with toast, fish or over icecream ( my favorite ) or make juice

 

SHAKER SPICED GRAPE DRINK (originally from the Shakers in Ohio)

2 qts crushed grape juice
1/2 c sugar
12 whole cloves
2 4-inch cinnamon sticks
3 tbsp whole allspice
8 thin lemon slices (optional, for garnish)

Combine all but lemon in a large pot. Heat to low simmer and cook 30 min. Strain, discard the spices, and chill covered for up to 5 days. Serve over cracked ice, garnish with lemon.

 

even frozen in a glass with a dusting of mint



Edited (12/24/2009) by Pita

7.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Dec 2009 Thu 09:54 pm

Fabulous idea Pita, I´ll start looking up grape jam & jelly ideas.......I made some nice orange marmelade last year....yum....but then I stopped eating toast or anything to put it on....."got a little too rounded for my taste eating it"  A nice breakfast is some cheese, jam and some olives...and nice bread.....hmmm....after the Holidays...too many parties with food...and I have to make about 100 sugar cookies for presents, and roast a leg of lamb for a neighbour.  Of course, I have to test things....Cool

 

I wonder how grape ice cream would be...or grape sherbert? Frozen grapes are wonderful...sort of like a popsicle...but organic. 

 

Quoting Pita

you could try jams or jellies they would be wonderful and easy to make and can be used with toast, fish or over icecream ( my favorite ) or make juice

 

SHAKER SPICED GRAPE DRINK (originally from the Shakers in Ohio)

2 qts crushed grape juice
1/2 c sugar
12 whole cloves
2 4-inch cinnamon sticks
3 tbsp whole allspice
8 thin lemon slices (optional, for garnish)

Combine all but lemon in a large pot. Heat to low simmer and cook 30 min. Strain, discard the spices, and chill covered for up to 5 days. Serve over cracked ice, garnish with lemon.

 

even frozen in a glass with a dusting of mint

 

 

8.       ptaszek
440 posts
 26 Dec 2009 Sat 12:25 am

well,Muscatel is ok ,especially Spanish one but still loses with my Chianti)too sweet!I luv wines from Tekirdag region as far as Turkish wines are discussed.

9.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Dec 2009 Sat 11:25 pm

 

Quoting ptaszek

well,Muscatel is ok ,especially Spanish one but still loses with my Chianti)too sweet!I luv wines from Tekirdag region as far as Turkish wines are discussed.

 

I´m only interested in the actual grapes....the wine is of no interest to me.

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