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turkish ottoman language
1.       nifrtity
1807 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 06:06 am

Merhaba,

i want learning the turkish ottoman language where i can learn it on line

and what is the different between  it and the new turkish

is only the writting with arabic letteres and latin letters the difference

thanks for your help



Edited (12/31/2009) by nifrtity

2.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 09:14 am

 

Quoting nifrtity

Merhaba,

i want learning the turkish ottoman language where i can learn it on line

and what is the different between  it and the new turkish

is only the writting with arabic letteres and latin letters the difference

thanks for your help

 

 difference is much more than just the script used. The vocabulary is very different.

 

e.g. east and west in modern Turkish is doğa and batı. In Ottoman Turkish it is garp and sarp.

 

3.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 10:02 am

a good source for it:

 

http://www.umich.edu/~turkish/langres_ott.html

4.       upsy_daisy
200 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 12:01 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

 difference is much more than just the script used. The vocabulary is very different.

 

e.g. east and west in modern Turkish is doğa and batı. In Ottoman Turkish it is garp and sarp.

 

 

batı = garp (west)

doğu = şark  (east)

 

 

5.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 06:25 pm

şark: doğu: east

garp: batı: west

şimal: kuzey: north

cenub: güney: south

 

ottoman vocabulary is heavly influenced by persian and arabic.

if you know persian, arabic and modern turkish, you dont need to study ottoman turkish so much.



Edited (12/31/2009) by ikicihan
Edited (12/31/2009) by ikicihan

6.       alameda
3499 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 08:42 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

şark: doğu: east

garp: batı: west

şimal: kuzey: north

cenub: güney: south

 

ottoman vocabulary is heavly influenced by persian and arabic.

if you know persian, arabic and modern turkish, you dont need to study ottoman turkish so much.

 

True....but today´s Arabic might not work that well.  Osmanli is classical Arabic.  I wonder if the pronounciation of Osmanli Arabic words is similar to today´s pronounciation. (and just what of today´s Arabic pronounciation would be the best?)....there are a lot of letters in Arabic  and Turkish that don´t exist in each language.....It´s always amused me to hear Arabs saying basha instead of pasha....and Turkish speakers making z out of the th letters.  Like leziz instead of ledhidh=delicious

 

Then there are a lot of words that are very similar in Turkish, Persian and it´s related languages....like canim.....azizzim....Because of Islam being the prodominant religion in all these countries, there are many Arabic words in all of them.  It would be nice to be able to read Osmanli, wouldn´t it?

7.       nifrtity
1807 posts
 01 Jan 2010 Fri 07:02 pm

thanks all for you help

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