Arkadaşlar , Türkçe öğrenen yabancı bir arkadaşım , bana Türkçe eklerin sıralanışı neye göre olur dedi.. Ben bu konuda önce zaman sonra şahıs ekini ekle diyebildim.. Fakat iş ayrıntıya girdiğinde ne olacak dedi ? İyelik ekleri , durum ekleri , ilgi ekleri , yapım , çekim vs. derken kafam karıştı.. Bunların tam olarak sıralanışını , nasıl basit bir şekilde anlatabilirim ?

Eğer İngilizcesi varsa anlatımda kolaylık olması adına Türkçe´deki eklerin İngilizce´deki anlamın tam tersine hareket ettiğini söyleyebilirsin.*

(*if learner can speak English, for easiness in teaching, you can tell that suffixes in Turkish are added by the opposite side of English meaning)

Color of his home: Evinin rengi.

his home: evi

of his home: evinin

color of his home: evinin rengi.

Sıralanış tam tersi gördüğün üzere.

At my home: evimde

home: ev

my home: evim

at my home: evimde.

Bu kural çoğu kez geçerlidir. Eklerin sıralanışı karmaşık bir husus; okuldayken çekim eki - yapım eki davasına göre sıralandığı anlatılmıştı.**

(**this rule is commonly valid. Order of suffixes is a complicated topic; when we were at school, they told us that suffixes are ordered according the matter of construction suffix - conjugation suffix.)

kolay gelsin

turkishcobra //

Thank you so much brother I will try to explain all.. Sorry that i wrote my first msg. in turkish.. Because as you can understand i felt some shame i could not teach "my" grammer , my language as i wanted. Also thank you so much Other users will read this topic too.. It hope it helps them

Eniser, brother, Turkish is a very different language. In daily life, we speak it automaticly and we don´t realize but when we try to teach it someone other we see that it is very different than we suppose =)

And we see that it is a very complicated language actually.

I wish you good luck. If you need any help, ask it without any hesitation.

thx

turkishcobra //

Dear turkishcobra, I fully agree with what you wrote above. Being a native speaker of a language does not give you the right of knowing all about its grammar. If you are not an expert, Turkish looks like a puzzle. But, on the other hand, Turkish is one of those languages which have firm rules.

Your answer to eniser was more like an answer to a question about translation rules (that is not always like that) than explaining what is the order for Turkish suffixes which was the gist of the question.

There is no enough space here for the full answer. I will be content with some such lesser explanation about constructive suffixes as the following.

Turkish suffixes are of two groups:

a) constructive suffixes

b) inflexional suffixes

The constructive suffixes used to form new words from the old ones:

a) nouns from nouns (as -lık in taş-lık)

b) verbs from nouns (as -la in baş-la)

c) nouns from verbs (as -m in al-ı-m)

d) verbs from verbs (as -n- in gez-i-n-)

1)Constructive suffixes change the meaning of the root and stem.

2)Constructive suffixes are fixed parts of the words.

3)Because constructive suffixes are directly interested in root, they come immediately after it, and inflexional suffix/suffixes follow them.

4) It is possible to add more than one constructive suffix to a root if they are from the different groups, and if they follow each other one (from a group) by one (from another group):

saç – (verb )

saç-ma (noun )

saç-ma-la (verb)

saç-ma-la-mak (noun)

In a word, suffixes used to make nouns from nouns and verbs from verbs can follow each other:

göz (noun)

göz-lük (noun)

göz-lük-çü (noun)

göz-lük-çü-lük (noun)

dur (verb)

dur-dur (verb)

dur-dur-ma (verb)

but suffixes used to make nouns from verbs and verbs from nouns can’t follow each other.

Inflexional suffixes are parts of a root or stem that are in connection with other roots and stems. The function of constructive suffix is limited with the word itself, but the function of inflexional suffix goes beyond the word. Two inflexional suffixes which are of the same group can´t immediately follow each other. They are very rare exceptions with the rule in which one of the suffixes has lost its function. No inflexional suffix can come before a constructive suffix.

Inflexional suffixes are of two groups: suffixes for nouns and suffixes for verbs.

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(If there is one here who is curious to know the rest of the explanation, I will be back as soon as I become free. If not, I will seal my lips forever! )