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Kurdish Heritage Reclaimed
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28 May 2010 Fri 12:47 pm |
As I see it it is a wise proverb similar to many used everyday here in Scotland only the context in which it is used here is objectionable to some.
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28 May 2010 Fri 12:53 pm |
Everybody understands what it means and how racist the wording is..
Even softened version of your translation wont cover it Sui..
I cannot do anything about how you want to understand it my friend
but it has nothing to do with being racist to me
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28 May 2010 Fri 12:57 pm |
Sorry, double post
Edited (5/28/2010) by lady in red
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28 May 2010 Fri 01:00 pm |
As I see it it is a wise proverb similar to many used everyday here in Scotland only the context in which it is used here is objectionable to some.
.....an in the context in which it was used I thought it was intended to be insulting.
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28 May 2010 Fri 01:09 pm |
I cannot do anything about how you want to understand it my friend
but it has nothing to do with being racist to me
Well of course it is not to you..
(And also I explained why it might look normal to a person from a country which has the biggest racist party in Europe )
That is why I keep saying that we do have "a Turkish problem"..
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28 May 2010 Fri 01:10 pm |
.....an in the context in which it was used I thought it was intended to be insulting.
Of course insults will always be traded by both sides in a dispute.
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28 May 2010 Fri 01:13 pm |
Well of course it is not to you..
(And also I explained why it might look normal to a person from a country which has the biggest racist party in Europe )
That is why I keep saying that we do have "a Turkish problem"..
When a politician uses that word over a group of people, or over a group of same ethnicity like gypsies, africans etc..., yes it can be heard as a racist.
But there are always two sides on a madallion, which we should never forget...
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28 May 2010 Fri 01:19 pm |
When a politician uses that word over a group of people, or over a group of same ethnicity like gypsies, africans etc..., yes it can be heard as a racist.
But there are always two sides on a madallion, which we should never forget...
Put your hand into your heart..
Say we are in Europe and say You are talking about how young Turks are well educated, how cultured they are and suddenly a person is coming up and saying above words to you..What would you think?
There is no medallion here...Even there is, both sides are racism..
But as I said, you NOT being able to see that is quite normal it seems
Edited (5/28/2010) by thehandsom
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28 May 2010 Fri 01:30 pm |
Put your hand into your heart..
Say we are in Europe and say You are talking about how young Turks are well educated, how cultured they are and suddenly a person is coming up and saying above words to you..What would you think?
There is no medallion here...Even there is, both sides are racism..
But as I said, you NOT being able to see that is quite normal it seems
I cannot agree with what you are saying over here, as during my travels around europe people were hardly believing i am Turkish... i had to show my id... but this was kinda sad and was also flattering after hearing "wow, then there are some nice Turks aswell"
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28 May 2010 Fri 01:49 pm |
I cannot agree with what you are saying over here, as during my travels around europe people were hardly believing i am Turkish... i had to show my id... but this was kinda sad and was also flattering after hearing "wow, then there are some nice Turks aswell"
what is it you dont agree exactly?
Tell us how using those words in the context given is NOT RACIST..
Think of a context like similar to Ros´s new..Think that some foreigners says ´Oh Look at this . Turks are coming along with their culture, education etc etc..´ and suddenly another person is coming along and saying ´a donkey is still a donkey even with a golden saddle´
That is a racist comment to me..
Edited (5/28/2010) by thehandsom
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28 May 2010 Fri 02:01 pm |
what is it you dont agree exactly?
Tell us how using those words in the context given is NOT RACIST..
Think of a context like similar to Ros´s new..Think that some foreigners says ´Oh Look at this . Turks are coming along with their culture, education etc etc..´ and suddenly another person is coming along and saying ´a donkey is still a donkey even with a golden saddle´
That is a racist comment to me..
I was just defending the proverb itself
Your example at the moment is just a proof to my idea... proverb itself cant be racist, but the usage of it by a person can make it sound as so. So its the users mistake
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