Oince, Israel is not the source of all evil. We criticize Isreal for her aggressive policies which result in loss of life as was the case with the recent incident. I would also agree with you when you crticize the Israeli government for its nationalistic policies. We know that Jews have a lot of power in America through their high level contacts. This way they are instrumental in shaping the generally aggressive aspects of the American foreign policy. They seem to capitalize on the naive urban cowboy type machoism. I would conclude, Israel has always been a co-founder of the neo-con stance which has irritated even the modertely patriotic Americans. All these point out to the presence some mechanism that functions outside the legal boundaries.

Still, it would be a gross exageration to say Isreal is the source of all evil. Jews are both good and bad just like any other people. It is the government that shapes the policies. No government in the world can be completely benign.

+one million for you vineyards.  

The problems in this region are complex and involve many governments (including my own) over a long period of time.  I can´t help but think that maybe when we all stop blaming each other something can actually be done to help the Palestinians.  As an individual who has limited control over what my government does, I have chosen to boycott Israel.  I would encourage everyone to do the same.  

Oeince - I think what LL meant was that you said "Israel is the main source of global terrorism!" and you didn´t state what terrorist action outside Israel they are responsible for (I can think of Egypt only). And you somethow smoothly go from Israel to Jews. Are you aware of the fact that not all Jews are Israeli? Are you aware of the fact that colonisation main flow happened back in the days when Jews were having a really hard time in Europe? They are no more guilty of providing guns to conflict zones than the US, Russia or the Middle East.

BM explained why Jews specialised in trade and saying that the US looks after Isreal´s business better than it does after its own is not true either.

Everything in the world related to human and societies is extremely complex. However, all events have major reasons and related reasons.  

In my opinion, the main reason of global terrorism is Jewish beliefs obsessions that I mentioned in my previous posts.  Because of the government of Israel is based on those obsessions, they do not hesitate to destroy anyone or any nations who for their sakes. They display their bloody face directly in Palestine. They use USA in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and etc. USA’s economical expectations are in coordination with Israel’s political aims. We can witness that coordination clearly in Great Middle East Project. If we bear in mind that FED‘s Board and Advisory Council, President’s Advisory Council and other important positions are occurred by Jews; biggest global incorporations are owned by Jews; refusing that coordination just becomes imaginariness. It is remarkable that Egypt is the first foreign aid receiver of the US. Probably that is why Refah border door is closed for about five years.

The most significant argument to realize Israel and USA’s aims is Capitalism. So that while capital owners improve their assets, others are getting poorer. This inequity brings social conflicts attendantly. So the problems in poorer countries where Israel and the US want to keep instable, turns to be inextricably chaotic.

In conclusion, I believe the main reason of global terrorism is Jews and Israel’s obsessed ambitions. They use USA as a gunned power and capitalism as a socio-economic power to reach their dreams.

Together with that, I don’t mean Israel is the only evil in the world. Losing ethical values, selfishness, extreme competition, ethnocentrism etc. etc. are different significant reasons of social demolish. These matters are valid in the whole world regardless the religions or economic wealth. Even we can witness these problems even more in poorer Muslim countries. But these are sider affects of results of obsessed aggressive policies and capitalism.

I don’t think that all Jews are pushy. There are a lot of Jews in or outside of Israel who are against Israel Governments actions. There are a lot of young people whom rejects to join or resign Israeli army because of their aggressor policies. Even there is a group in Israel who wishes that Israel is to be destroyed (According to Jewish belief Israel will be destroyed just before doomsday and these groups wishes to see the doomsday)

It is easy to widen simples about peaceful Jews. However currently, most effectful Jews are obsessed and militant. Whom I mean in my comments is this group.

 Generalizing should be done based on the majority of a people. The majority of Jewish people are not the high and mighty. A lot of people have the idea that the American government has a high percentage of Jewish people, as well as the business world. However, when you look at the numbers, it just isn´t true. The only business that Jewish people are overly represented in in the U.S. are jewelries and show business (mainly comedy).

I always ask for proof, so let me give my own proof in this case The American (current) cabinet: President Obama, Vice President Biden, Clinton, Geithner, Gates, Holder, Salazar, Vilsack, Locke, Solis, Sebelius, LaHood, Dunca, Shinseki, and Napolitano are all Christian or brought up Christian. I´m not sure about Shaun Donovan. But from his family´s background it´s highly likely that he was brought up Christian but doesn´t have a religion now. In any case he´s not a Jew. Steven Chu is also not a Jew for sure. The most fitting lable would be humanist. So...no Jews in the American cabinet.

..........well that very much depends on just what one thinks is effective.  I can think of many Jews who are effective and not violent. Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, Naomi Klein who wrote the Shock Doctrine and other powerful books and articles, then of course, Noam Chomsky, Charlie Chaplin, John Stewart of the Daily Show...and I could go on and on....the contribution to culture and society by Jews has been tremendous.  I would not confuse Jews with what is going on in Israel.  In many ways I feel the Jews are being used as pawns themselves. It´s unfortunate too many are falling into the trap. There is an active peace block, but they have been overpowered...for now. Uri Avnery´s Gush Shalom,  B´Tselem.........and I could go on and on....

BTW why are your posts posted in such tiny font? You could write in a word processor, then bring it into notepad and past it into your message. That way the font would be standard for this forum. It´s hard to read your posts, and your posts are very long and difficult to read. If you want your message to get through, it has to be easy to read.  Something I´m working on myself....

Many people stated this but I also want to reiterate this warning: Let´s not turn criticism of the state of Israel into racism against Jewish people. Racism is something we don´t allow or tolerate on this site. 

If a social group insists on their mistakes, individual’s responsibility would be to criticize those! The world’s public opinion condoned Israel’s savagery due to the psychological superiority of Anti-Semitism idea. I realize that this idea is even a part of psychological war. The world, especially Europeans have to get rid of the sense of guilt. Innocent people of the world are with suffering people but if those suffering ones turn to be cruel, the same people of the world disapprove them.

I don’t like to personalize my comments about a global problem but, when I saw Auscwitz and Birkenau I condemned the savagery with very strong feelings. However I believe I still have to stay objective as much as I can. I think we must look at the whole picture and we must build up our ideas according to realizing events. We must limit emotional affects and taboos as much as we can to remain objective.

Addressing someone as “Racist” for he criticized Jewish obsessions and Israel Government’s acts is ruthlessness. Especially if the answerer mainly aims peace for the whole world!

I repeat again not to be understood wrong, I do not mean the Jewish people who just work, watch TV in the evening and mostly care about his/her family. I love those people and I know that we agree with those Jewish people. The group I mean on my comments is the ones who make bloody plans behind closed to create riots in the world.

If the public opinion could talk about Hitler clearly and could stop him before he burns the world, we would not lose 50 million individuals (5.5 million of them were genocide) and 75 million people as a total!

So please do not hesitate of telling the truth before the world burns again! Innocents have to be as brave as killers for a peaceful world! That is why I will repeat again and again! Israel and obsessed Jews are killers and they are the main source of terrorism in the world!

Alameda, than you for your advices i will keep those in my mind. And thank you for notepad info, i really needed that.

Obsessed muslims kill too... obsessed christians kill too, obsessed anything kills. You were called a racist because you connected people of a certain religion to worldwide violence without any proof. Instead of saying "I don´t agree with the actions of the current Israeli government" you firstly connected the country to violence it can´t possible be responsible for, and then connected all Jews to that violence. I want you to feel bad about that because it´s just racism, not because Jews died in WW2.

What do you mean I don´t know you? If I´m not mistaken you are one of the people I´ve met in person. I suggested that these were not your words basing on the level of English between this thread´s posts and your earlier ones. They somehow do not seem to be written by the same person. Unless of course I am wrong. I can´t really see where I accused you of lying. I just asked you to provide sources of what you typed in your posts.  

Edited (6/7/2010) by oeince