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Metro Bus travel Istanbul
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 02:33 am |
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Sorry but where is there and where is here. I don´t really understand what you are trying to say
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 02:37 am |
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´there´ is Turkey, and ´here´ is the very heart of the civilization!
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 02:39 am |
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´there´ is Turkey, and ´here´ is the very heart of the civilization!
hmm ok great well now its so much clearer ...not
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 03:57 am |
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Is it so wrong that Turkey tries to feed its people instead of making ´better´ transportation for the whinny tourists who don’t want to do a little arm work? Hmm…I wonder if they get a laugh out of it too? Stop complaining you’re lucky to have transportation in the first place. Sorry the world doesn´t revolve around you. 
Actually, Loveprague LIVES in Istanbul. His wife is a native Turk. We are not talking about tourists.
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 06:17 am |
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I read Richard´s post as a comment (or whinge if you prefer) on the lack of facilities for people with mobility problems and also pram users. Having often helped ladies with prams and shopping up and down stairways I appreciate the difficulties a lone parent can experience.
Unfortunately world-wide there are problems with infrastructure for helping less mobile public transport users. Istanbul is not alone here. Sadly many disabled people have to rely on public transport. Thankfully some of Istanbul´s public transport is good for access, especially the newer systems.
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:20 am |
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In other countries, you can´t expect them to be the same as yours. I get so frustrated when I hear people getting angry and upset of silly things(like you did).
Appreciate the small things in life and you will live.
I have a disabled friend who lives in England, thankfully he has a car that is specially designed for car travel and there are some facilities for more travel options for disabled people, and the buses have ramps to allow other passengers (disabled and parents) to travel around.
I would think in 2010 now we could have a general thought about disabled people and parents with children when designers plan their constructions. I am not having a moan merely trying to think of other people who have to travel on public transport.
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:23 am |
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I disagree with this being called "silly". This has nothing to do with one country or another. I think there should be lifts in public transport everywhere. Not because of "culture" but because EVERY country has disabled people. I think people in weelchairs should have the freedom to travel with the metro too. It should be made easier for them to get around. In the Turkish town where I used to live, all the sidewalks had a ramp-style ending, so that people with weelchairs could get around the town more easily. So it´s not a Turkish thing to not think of people with disabilities.
Thank you, yes too many people do not either think or care for the other less mobilised and parents with young babies who also have to travel and have no car in their household. I am pleased to see where you used to live had some facilities for travel for the disabled
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:25 am |
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Definately not "silly" to expect that public transportation be able to accomodate "the public." which in most countries around the world include, the handicapped and children. When I was in Turkey in March, I encountered many of the same problems, but what I did found was many helpful and friendly people who assisted me if they saw me struggling. This is completely different that what happens in the States. You could have a baby, a carriage, bags of groceries and be struggling to do something, and almost nobody would stop and help you.
Thank you Elisabeth, I know it is not possible to have access for disabled people everywhere on public transport but it being 2010 surely their should be more planning when constructing transport access.
Here in Turkey people do help and they are very caring, I have also encountered this many times
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:30 am |
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Is it so wrong that Turkey tries to feed its people instead of making ´better´ transportation for the whinny tourists who don’t want to do a little arm work? Hmm…I wonder if they get a laugh out of it too? Stop complaining you’re lucky to have transportation in the first place. Sorry the world doesn´t revolve around you.
First of all, I live in Istanbul so I think I am 100% certain I cannot be called a tourist? and you talking about arm work my wife had to carry our one year old up three flights of stairs she nearly missed her step, while I was carrying several bags and the pushchair. This is 2010 public transport has been around alot longer to accomodate people who have no transport of their own.
One day have a stop to think 30 seconds how life is like for a disabled person, I certainly do and appreciate how they need to travel and get about and feel freedom myself and you do everyday.
I am soon to go to visit the U.K. and yes a tourist at that?
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:32 am |
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Actually, Loveprague LIVES in Istanbul. His wife is a native Turk. We are not talking about tourists.
Thanks Elisabeth, if only people took a few minutes to actually read my profile and see that I am not actually a tourist anymore here in Istanbul. Hope you are well?
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17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:35 am |
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I read Richard´s post as a comment (or whinge if you prefer) on the lack of facilities for people with mobility problems and also pram users. Having often helped ladies with prams and shopping up and down stairways I appreciate the difficulties a lone parent can experience.
Unfortunately world-wide there are problems with infrastructure for helping less mobile public transport users. Istanbul is not alone here. Sadly many disabled people have to rely on public transport. Thankfully some of Istanbul´s public transport is good for access, especially the newer systems.
Thanks Henry, I am just trying to think of other people who have to travel, I have always appreciated what lone parents and other parents have to manage after becoming a parent for the first time just one year ago.
I just think more consideration should be given to less fortunate and able bodied travellers, I was not having a moan as one T.C. member clearly thought
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