Right what? So you don´t deny it? Seni biraz somurtkan gördüm bu arada.

TheH this for you, below is what i said one and a half years ago, during our discussion, and that time it seems i was surprised, you mentioned this openly for the first time;

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But i do know you have respect for terrorists. Then why dont they really voice it publicly? I think it is the most suitable time. Are they ashamed of something? Actually i have to agree maybe the first time with you on this issue, many of them support terrorists in someways. I just voiced the general view that "But most of the Kurds in Turkey do not fancy with pkk".  One of the interesting thing i realized that none of Kurdish friends that i recognized in my life support these terrorist, actually they clearly curse them except some complaints about Turkish government.

Not really..

But I wont tolerate people´s blatant  rudeness deriving from their inability to answer my posts and their ignorance about the subject..

I am still thinking I should not be the subject here.

All I did was approving of some of what Armegon said which I have always said..

Hmmm...can´t understand why....."if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck....it must be a.....duck" keeps going through my mind.

We have many sayings to describe these kind of things:

Zeytinyağı gibi üste çıkar (He floats atop like olive oil)

Yavuz hırsız evsahibini suçlu çıkarır (Good thieve turns the house owner into the guilty one)

Yüzüne tükürsen yağmur yağıyor diye allaha şükreder (If you spit on his face, he thanks God saying it is raining).

I feel another thread coming on

You really do not see your shortcomings, ignorance about the subjects and inability to argue in this forum? 

I mean I am serious!! 

Dont you simply just see that your frustration and then switching into rudeness with Turkish idioms or switching to Turkish when accusing people being an Armenian etc is telling us(me) that you simply UNABLE TO ANSWER or produce anything tangible about the topic discussed and that is FRUSTRATION?

Phew!!! 

Your political analysis is funny and perhaps inclined a little towards stupidity.

1) The reason half of them vote for neo-islamist AKP is not Kurdish opening-mopening (which doesn´t exist anymore) but Kurdish people are often deeply religious.Because PKK has Marxist- Leninist roots (in ignorant people´s minds, marxist=atheist=enemy of Islam) religious Kurds don´t like PKK and support AKP. Only two political parties (AKP, BDP) which have a great chance of abusing the different sensivities of Kurdish people, are the good addresses for the votes of the region to go. 

2) You say "Kurds have been rebelling since 1920´s". You are trapped by your own words! Then kindly inform us since when the Western imperialist powers have been in the Middle East? And why? According to your theory American and British troops have been having picnic in Iraq and they are harvesting hashish in Afghanistan. The poor Saddam-in the other world- should be thinking this way:I shouldn´t blame Bush. He didn´t hung me.I must have lost my life in a traffic accident.  

Geez..

Why do you need to LOWER the level of your IQ in every single post when you answer me ?

Obviously, it is an analysis and it can be subjected to crititism.. But WHY ON earth you are lowering the level of language and showing your frustration? (is it simply you are unable to prove what you are saying? )

Go and ask why Kurds are supporting BDP and PKK.  Ask Armegon why he thinks KURDS ARE SUPPORTING PKK?

They are supporting BDP. They are not suporting any of the other parties..CHP/MHP they DONT EXISTS THERE.. They are not accepting the Turkish nationalist approach..

You hate it, you dont want to hear about it balh blah.. But it does not matter. Theye are there.. Kurds are there.. They are voting BDP.. They are in the parlimant.  You have to accept that as the REALITY AND admit you were wrong.. (There is nothing wrong with admitting that )

You dont know your own history but you are quite happy to talk about what you dont know..

Our Kurdish problem has been a problem since 1920s... This is being accepted by almost everybody.. What is your benefit in this denial? (Ah of course, sorry.. it is nothing to do with ´eu and usa´  as you were told by our generals. I thought you would not believe their lies as they told us so many)

YOUR president is telling you that Our Kurdish Problem is our INTERNAL PROBLEM..

YOUR PM is telling you that he has to continue with Kurdish opening.

YOUR Kurkish population is ASKING FOR more rights and asking for that opening..

And what is all these USA´s invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan  got to do with PKK  which was formed in 1970s and our Kurdish problem since 1920s? Did  G Bush advice Kenan Evren in 1980´s that ´you ban Kurdish language and change all kurdish names in the map´ in advance before becoming president? Or was it Americans told us ´torture Kurds more in Diyarbakir prison´? Are you sure you are not mixing the lies of war loving generals with the start of our Kurdish problem and everything?  It seems it is all mixed to me!!

And in the end.. the choice is very simple:

You give their rights to KURDS and live in peace as single country..

Or you dont give anything and insist that it is terrorism only and get more poeple killed and split Turkey in the end..

I prefer the first option.  And what you prefer is not what I prefer!!!

 Just because to make them understandable by your level 

Come on..

You are trying your best and that is your best..

So what about the topic mentioned there? You dont have any answers? 

You are just like s++, who can not answer and who can not argue, who can not prove what he is saying and turn everything into a slang match?  

Go ;read; think and then come back into the politics section stronger please.

You are no fun to argue..