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1.       Bellao0
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 22 Jul 2010 Thu 11:14 am

Ben kötü-y-üm
how did they use the fusion consonant & we learn that if there are a vowel from the same group we droppe one of them:

 

If both of the vowels are in the group "-i, -ı, -u, -ü" than these two vowels have to be the same (look at the vowel harmony rules to understand why). Since the two vowels are the same, it does not matter which one we drop in this case.

2.       Bellao0
8 posts
 22 Jul 2010 Thu 11:16 am

i think it´s not false if i say: ben kötüm

3.       ally3407
19 posts
 22 Jul 2010 Thu 01:06 pm

 

Quoting Bellao0

i think it´s not false if i say: ben kötüm

 

 it is completely not correct to say :ben kötüm

and we do need here to say

"ben kötüyüm "

 

b.rgds/ally

4.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 22 Jul 2010 Thu 03:28 pm

 

Quoting Bellao0

i think it´s not false if i say: ben kötüm

 

 It is definitely wrong!

 

You are lucky there isnt a word "köt", otherwise you would have said you are one of them.

5.       Bellao0
8 posts
 22 Jul 2010 Thu 07:20 pm

mmmmmm thx

6.       si++
3785 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 01:04 pm

 

Quoting Bellao0

Ben kötü-y-üm
how did they use the fusion consonant & we learn that if there are a vowel from the same group we droppe one of them:

 

If both of the vowels are in the group "-i, -ı, -u, -ü" than these two vowels have to be the same (look at the vowel harmony rules to understand why). Since the two vowels are the same, it does not matter which one we drop in this case.

 

Suffixes are defined by putting the optional consonants (or vowels) between paranthesis.

 

For example -(i)m (i represent ı,i,u,ü one of which you would pick according to vowel harmony rules) means after a word ending with a consonant you would add one of ı/i/u/ü and if the word ends with a vowel you would only add m

anne=mother

anne & -(i)m -> anne-m (anne ends with  vowel so use -m)

 

müdür=manager

müdür & -(i)m -> müdür-üm (müdür ends with a consonant so add ü before m)

 

On the other hand -(y)im means after a word ending with a vowel you would add y and if the word ends with a consonant you would only add im

 

anne=mother

anne & -(y)im -> anne-yim (anne ends with  vowel so use -yim)

 

müdür=manager

müdür & -(y)im -> müdür-üm (müdür ends with a consonant so add -üm)

 

-(i)m means my

-(y)im means I am

 

So

anne-m = my mother

müdür-üm = my manager

 

anne-yim = I am (a) mother

müdür-üm = I am (a) manager

 

Notice second ones are the same but have 2 different meanings depending on the suffix.

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