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1.       Thebirdy
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 19 Aug 2010 Thu 03:43 pm

Turkey has launched educational compaign promoting importance of school education addressed to the fathers of daughters. This issue has been recently presented  in Turkish politics in action web blog of Ragan Updegraff

Thursday, June 24, 2010

Keeping Daughters (and Sons) In School

A recent report put out by the Education Reform Initative takes a look at the nubmer of children who either do not go to school or do not go onto receive a seconday education. As expected, the document confirms that the percentage of girls not in school is much higher than that of boys, though the number not attending seconday school is quite high for both groups. Bianet summarizes the report´s findings:
* In the age group of 15-19-year-olds, 26 percent of the boys and 50 percent of the girls neither are going to school nor to work. In international comparison, this ratio amounts to 8, respectively 9 percent in other OECD countries.

* Access to secondary education is dependent on significant regional disparities. 78 percent of the 14-17-year-olds are enrolled in high school in the Southern Marmara region, whereas this ratio reaches a mere 44 percent only in the South-East of the country.

* Also the parents´ education level is an important influence: 17 percent of daughters of illiterate fathers and 94 percent of the daughters of university graduates go to a secondary school.

* 15 percent of all male high school students enrolled in the academic year of 2008/2009 dropped out of school. The proportion rises to 23 percent at vocational schools.

* A total of 360,000 students dropped out of high school in 2008/2009. Considering the number of school days, more than 2,000 students dropped out of school every day.

* In 2009, the per capita expenditure for secondary education amounted to TL 2,273 (€ 1,136), the figure for vocational and technical schools lay at TL 2,937 (€ 1,558) per student. For 2010, the budget is planned at TL 2,051 and TL 2,188 respectively. The reduction stems from increasing secondary education to four years and trying to make it more prevalent without allocating sufficient resources.

* Per capita expenditures for students significantly vary among different provinces: Public spending on secondary education per student in 2009 amounted to TL 1,379 (€ 69 in Istanbul and TL 3,508 (€ 1,754) in Amasya (northern Anatolia).

* In comparison to the previous year, 175,000 more children benefited from pre-school education in 2010. Three out of five 20-72-month-old children were enrolled.
Many families do not simply refuse to send their daughters or sons to schools because they see it as unnecessary, but because the children´s labor is viewed as necessary for the family´s sustenance. Too often, I suspect it is the daughters that make the biggest sacrifice in this regard. Interesting here also are the regional disparites in terms of the total amount spent on each student
source
Btw a very informative blog I would like to share with other members

2.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 19 Aug 2010 Thu 04:19 pm

I think these numbers back up what most people already knew. It´s good that somebody is asking some attention for this issue.

3.       Thebirdy
39 posts
 19 Aug 2010 Thu 04:40 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I think these numbers back up what most people already knew. It´s good that somebody is asking some attention for this issue.

 

 Yet not most people know that Turkish government pays special educational allowance for Kurdish families which send their kids to school to encourage them in this financial way. It is 120 TL.FYI Turkish families are not entitled to this benefit.

Additionaly, government subsidies go to courses to which nobody wants to enroll, complaining  and escaping to violence seem always a better solution rather than educate themselves. One of doctors working in the Sout East told me that she was accused of deliberate preventing pregnacies when she started educating women on natural methods of contraception. For some it is better to keep people not educated, vulnerable and easier to manipulate and influence.



Edited (8/19/2010) by Thebirdy [adding]

4.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 19 Aug 2010 Thu 05:45 pm

 

Quoting Thebirdy

 

 

 Yet not most people know that Turkish government pays special educational allowance for Kurdish families which send their kids to school to encourage them in this financial way. It is 120 TL.FYI Turkish families are not entitled to this benefit.

Additionaly, government subsidies go to courses to which nobody wants to enroll, complaining  and escaping to violence seem always a better solution rather than educate themselves. One of doctors working in the Sout East told me that she was accused of deliberate preventing pregnacies when she started educating women on natural methods of contraception. For some it is better to keep people not educated, vulnerable and easier to manipulate and influence.

 

Apologies.. It was a quick reading..and a huge misunderstanding..

Thanks Barba..

 

 



Edited (8/19/2010) by thehandsom
Edited (8/19/2010) by thehandsom

5.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 19 Aug 2010 Thu 06:55 pm

I don´t think Birdy wants to keep people uneducated, but is just saying that others want to keep people uneducated. For example, the parents of some girls don´t want their daughters to be educated. This is a real problem. They think education will lead to "moral decay". You bring them to school, and before you know it they want to work outside the house, no longer wear a headscarf, and they don´t listen to their parents every word anymore!

I think the extra money for certain families is needed. You have to keep in mind that this is an adjustment for past mistakes. These mistakes have a deep impact in current events.

6.       Thebirdy
39 posts
 02 Sep 2010 Thu 02:45 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Apologies.. It was a quick reading..and a huge misunderstanding..

Thanks Barba..

 

 

 you naughty theh!!!!

the UK made you illetral!!! Not only you understand me!!!!but also misintrepreted!!!!WAR!!!!{#emotions_dlg.get_you}

 

 

7.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Sep 2010 Thu 04:12 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

I don´t think Birdy wants to keep people uneducated, but is just saying that others want to keep people uneducated. For example, the parents of some girls don´t want their daughters to be educated. This is a real problem. They think education will lead to "moral decay". You bring them to school, and before you know it they want to work outside the house, no longer wear a headscarf, and they don´t listen to their parents every word anymore!

I think the extra money for certain families is needed. You have to keep in mind that this is an adjustment for past mistakes. These mistakes have a deep impact in current events.

Whay past mistakes?

 



Edited (9/2/2010) by AlphaF

8.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 02 Sep 2010 Thu 02:15 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Whay past mistakes?

 

 

 For example the under development of some areas in Turkey. In the past the government would pump a lot of money in some areas, improving schools, infrastructure, etc. Other areas were left out. I don´t want to say "current" mistakes, to avoid a long debate

9.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Sep 2010 Thu 06:24 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 For example the under development of some areas in Turkey. In the past the government would pump a lot of money in some areas, improving schools, infrastructure, etc. Other areas were left out. I don´t want to say "current" mistakes, to avoid a long debate

Once again, you are talking about things that you do not have a clue on !

 

10.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 02 Sep 2010 Thu 09:35 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Once again, you are talking about things that you do not have a clue on !

 

 

 I do actually. If you think I´m wrong, pick up a history book once in a while. You might agree with me afterwards. And try picking up one that is more neutral, and not "all hail Turkey, we love Ataturk" drenched.



Edited (9/2/2010) by barba_mama

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