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24 Jan 2011 Mon 09:48 pm |
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sorry i have problem with in,at,on. ankarada,izmirde.when do we add da and when de?any rule?please explain it!teshekur ederim
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24 Jan 2011 Mon 10:12 pm |
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sorry i have problem with in,at,on. ankarada,izmirde.when do we add da and when de?any rule?please explain it!teshekur ederim
We have two kinds according to backness or frontness (they are called also dotless vs dotted)
dotless: a ı o u
dotted: e i ö ü
The rule:
if the last syllable of the word is one of dotless use -da/-ta, and otherwise use -de/-te.
Ankara´da
Iğdır´da
Bonn´da
Muş´ta
Edirne´de
İzmir´de
Bingöl´de
Pülümür´de
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24 Jan 2011 Mon 11:33 pm |
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sorry i have problem with in,at,on. ankarada,izmirde.when do we add da and when de?any rule?please explain it!teshekur ederim
its all about vowel harmony..
if the last vowel of the word is e,i,ö,ü then we add ´´de´´
if the last vowel of the word is a,o,u,ı then we add ´´da´´
examples :
Amasya´da, Pazarda,Garajda,Televizyonda
Paltomda, Kamyonda
Ordu´da, Kamuda, İstanbul´da,Bolu´da
Çankırı´da,Çarşı´da
Antep´te,Rize´de, Kırıkkale´de
Kocaeli´de,Artvin´de,Partide
Kadıköy´de,Yeşilköy´de,Tahtalıköy´de(this one is not a real place..this is the place where people go after they die)
Kürsüde,Böğrümde,Gözümde,Çözümde
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25 Jan 2011 Tue 04:31 pm |
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There is this a which may appear in Arabic origin words end in -at that it is more close to e than Turkish a and the locative suffix for those is not -ta but -te:
saatte, sıhhatte, vaatte, nasihatte, etc.
mmm..but my fear is that gokuyum will pop up with google search results saying "nasihatte was used 99.400 times while nasihatta 56.000 times and this proves that nasihatta is almost as much in use as nasihatte, so both are correct" 
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28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:08 pm |
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We have two kinds according to backness or frontness (they are called also dotless vs dotted)
dotless: a ı o u
dotted: e i ö ü
The rule:
if the last syllable of the word is one of dotless use -da/-ta, and otherwise use -de/-te.
Ankara´da
Iğdır´da
Bonn´da
Muş´ta
Edirne´de
İzmir´de
Bingöl´de
Pülümür´de
Thank u guys!!
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28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:09 pm |
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We have two kinds according to backness or frontness (they are called also dotless vs dotted)
dotless: a ı o u
dotted: e i ö ü
The rule:
if the last syllable of the word is one of dotless use -da/-ta, and otherwise use -de/-te.
Ankara´da
Iğdır´da
Bonn´da
Muş´ta
Edirne´de
İzmir´de
Bingöl´de
Pülümür´de
Thank u guys!!
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29 Jan 2011 Sat 10:24 am |
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And the rule about when to use ta/te from the lessons on this site
CASE B - Suffix mutation.
Two conditions must be satisfied for suffix mutation to occur:
- You have a word ending with one of p, ç, t, k, f, h, s, ş.
- You want to add this word a suffix that starts with c or d.
In this case, the first letter of the consonant changes.
So for the following places we get
Antep´te
Meriç´te
İzmit´te
Bilecik´te
Hasankeyf ´te
Kemah´ta
Milas´ta
Kaş´ta
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29 Jan 2011 Sat 10:50 am |
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And the rule about when to use ta/te from the lessons on this site
CASE B - Suffix mutation.
Two conditions must be satisfied for suffix mutation to occur:
- You have a word ending with one of p, ç, t, k, f, h, s, ş.
- You want to add this word a suffix that starts with c or d.
In this case, the first letter of the consonant changes.
So for the following places we get
Antep´te
Meriç´te
İzmit´te
Bilecik´te
Hasankeyf ´te
Kemah´ta
Milas´ta
Kaş´ta
It´s called consonant harmony (similar to vowel harmony). They are all because of saying the things more easily with less effort.
Try it.
Try to say Milas´da and Milas´ta for example. Which one is easier, so requires less effort?
On the other hand da/de particle is always written as da/de even if it becomes ta/te when saying it.
Milas´ta buluşulalım.
Milas da Muğla´nın bir ilçesidir.
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