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Famous actor praises Turkey’s coups
1.       tunci
7149 posts
 18 Apr 2011 Mon 08:52 am

Famous actor praises Turkey’s coups

18 April 2011, Monday / TODAY’S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL

                                               Tarık Akan

Famous Turkish actor Tarık Akan, known for his neonationalist views, has praised the 27 May, 1960 and Feb. 28, 1997 military interventions in Turkey “for opening the way before Turkey.”
 

 Speaking to the Aydınlık daily, Akan replied to a question about coups and revolutions as he said: “Maybe left-wing friends will get angry with me, but neither May 27 nor Feb. 28 were military coups. Firstly, they opened the way before Turkey, made us know new thoughts. Feb. 28 is not a military coup either because it prevented us from getting away from [being] a secular republic.” Akan also said he went to Silivri last month to visit journalists Mustafa Balbay and Tuncay Özkan, who are suspects in an ongoing case into Ergenekon, a shadowy criminal network which has alleged links within the state and is suspected of plotting to topple the government.

 

2.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 18 Apr 2011 Mon 10:17 am

aside from bringing major halts to democracy and freedom, the common point of those two interventions were that islamists recieved a blow in both, which cannot be said for 79 coup. i dont know what he intended but this action looks more like a way of expressing an idea that belongs to left wingers against conservatives, rather than being nationalist. at least thats how it probably was seen from the consv. side, as he also visited tuncay özkan and balabay.

3.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 18 Apr 2011 Mon 08:22 pm

Ozkan and Balbay are two journalist, who are being kept in jail for over two years now, while honest state prosecutors are trying to put together an accusation to convict them for attempting a coup, over trivia that half the nation believes to be bulshit.

It is amazing to note that most military personnel well known to have actually participated in coups are free, alive and kicking, while these two journalist are being unlawfully tried (my objection is not to them being tried, but to them being tried with complete disregard to juidicial procedures)

There is no indication how long more their lives will be unjustly stolen from them and who and how exactly will apologize at the end, should they eventually be aquitted.

4.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 19 Apr 2011 Tue 08:58 am

Democracy is not about dividing the state from religion. Democracy is, by definition, about people letting them rule themselves. If Islamic ruling is what the majority of the people want, than the army has no place in fighting that.

5.       MeDanone
73 posts
 19 Apr 2011 Tue 09:14 am

You know what, I never even heard of the word Islamist until 2001. I don´t even believe it´s a word. I thought Islamic is the right word. Hmmmmm.

 

Anyway, mushy peas.



Edited (4/19/2011) by MeDanone [elaboration]

6.       Burak7777777
96 posts
 19 Apr 2011 Tue 02:58 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Democracy is not about dividing the state from religion. Democracy is, by definition, about people letting them rule themselves. If Islamic ruling is what the majority of the people want, than the army has no place in fighting that.

 

the system that lets people rule themselves is called republic. the true idea of democracy is to let everyone have a share in the rulership of the mass. it doesnt mean the majority should rule the minoirty, its about putting the balance between the majority and minority and taking an action that satisfies all parties. thats why even if their party isnt elected, every parliamanter is responsible about their country. people are responsible too.

 

and yes military coups dont fit into this description.

 

Quote:

You know what, I never even heard of the word Islamist until 2001. I don´t even believe it´s a word. I thought Islamic is the right word. Hmmmmm.

 

Anyway, mushy peas.

Add quoted text here

 

no its not a word. but i cant find any other translation for "yobaz". "conservative" sounds very american. and islamic, well i am islamic myself but i cant fit myself into the category where they rather chop someones head off and destroy our republic. so i invent a word.



Edited (4/19/2011) by Burak7777777

7.       scalpel
1472 posts
 19 Apr 2011 Tue 06:47 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

Democracy is not about dividing the state from religion. Democracy is, by definition, about people letting them rule themselves. If Islamic ruling is what the majority of the people want, than the army has no place in fighting that.

 

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

 

8.       si++
3785 posts
 20 Apr 2011 Wed 09:54 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

 

 

Karga keman çalıyor, tilki borsa oynuyor, birlikte peynir yiyorlar. Ben anlamaz, anlamaz.

 

9.       MeDanone
73 posts
 20 Apr 2011 Wed 11:45 am

Vanessa?

10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 27 Mar 2012 Tue 08:24 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

Democracy is not about dividing the state from religion. Democracy is, by definition, about people letting them rule themselves. If Islamic ruling is what the majority of the people want, than the army has no place in fighting that.

 

Not dividing state from religion, that is believing that state should be ruled (either partly or wholly) by divine rules from heavens and not by civil laws is called THEOCRACY.....Even in countries where there are no armies at all.

What has that got to do with "majority"?



Edited (3/27/2012) by AlphaF
Edited (3/27/2012) by AlphaF

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