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1.       Sweet_Paradise
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 03 Jul 2011 Sun 06:53 pm

Onlar ___ mı/mu?

What is the difference between the mı and mu if they are both in reference to the pronoun they?

2.       passer-by
97 posts
 03 Jul 2011 Sun 08:08 pm

 

Quoting Sweet_Paradise

Onlar ___ mı/mu?

What is the difference between the mı and mu if they are both in reference to the pronoun they?

 

mi/mı/mu are the suffixes that make the sentence they are added question..

 

Tarık komşularını çok sever. / Tarık loves his neigbours very much...

 

Tarık komşularını çok sever mi? / Does Tarık love his neighbours very much?

 

- mi/mı/mu are always added to the end of the sentence

 

--i m not sure that they refer to the pronoun "they"..

 

--- the difference between mı/mu stems from the sound harmony...

 

 

 


 


 

 

3.       Mavili
236 posts
 03 Jul 2011 Sun 09:51 pm

 

Quoting passer-by

 

 

mi/mı/mu are the suffixes that make the sentence they are added question..

 

Tarık komşularını çok sever. / Tarık loves his neigbours very much...

 

Tarık komşularını çok sever mi? / Does Tarık love his neighbours very much?

 

- mi/mı/mu are always added to the end of the sentence

 

--i m not sure that they refer to the pronoun "they"..

 

--- the difference between mı/mu stems from the sound harmony...

 

 

 


 


 

 

 

I hope this question is related, I dont meant to "threadjack"{#emotions_dlg.angel}

Essentially I am asking if you use the same suffix -mi to ask both "Does he?" or "Is he?" or 


Refering to personal interrogative question tags (-miyim?, -misin?, -mi?, miyiz?, etc)

lets say you wanted to write for example; "Does he swim everyday?" Would that be "her gün yüzer mi? " ?

Now would you use the same suffix as if you were saying "Is he swiming everyday?" Though after consideration, both sentences can mean basically the same thing in English. 


4.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 03 Jul 2011 Sun 10:00 pm

 

Quoting Mavili

 

 

I hope this question is related, I dont meant to "threadjack"{#emotions_dlg.angel}

Essentially I am asking if you use the same suffix -mi to ask both "Does he?" or "Is he?" or 


Refering to personal interrogative question tags (-miyim?, -misin?, -mi?, miyiz?, etc)

lets say you wanted to write for example; "Does he swim everyday?" Would that be "her gün yüzer mi? " ?

Now would you use the same suffix as if you were saying "Is he swiming everyday?" Though after consideration, both sentences can mean basically the same thing in English. 


Does he swim everyday? O her gün yüzer mi?

Is he swimming everyday? O her gün yüzüyor mu?

 

5.       Mavili
236 posts
 03 Jul 2011 Sun 10:11 pm

Thanks gokuyum{#emotions_dlg.bigsmile} 

6.       scalpel
1472 posts
 04 Jul 2011 Mon 03:47 am

 

Quoting passer-by

 

 

mi/mı/mu are the suffixes...

It is not a suffix but a word, that´s why it is not added to the word stem.

...that make the sentence they are added question..

It has some other functions as well. Here are two of them:

1)Used to harden the meaning:

Şirin mi şirin bir kasaba 

2)Used as a conjunction

Ezan okundu mu doğru camiye gider. 

Tarık komşularını çok sever. / Tarık loves his neigbours very much...

 

Tarık komşularını çok sever mi? / Does Tarık love his neighbours very much?

 

- mi/mı/mu are always added to the end of the sentence

It is not always placed in the end of the sentence:

Ben mi söylemişim?

Ahmet mi geldi?

--i m not sure that they refer to the pronoun "they"..

 

--- the difference between mı/mu stems from the sound harmony...

 

 

 


 


 

 

 

 

7.       si++
3785 posts
 04 Jul 2011 Mon 09:58 am

 

Quoting scalpel

mi/mı/mu are the suffixes...

It is not a suffix but a word, that´s why it is not added to the word stem.

...that make the sentence they are added question..

It has some other functions as well. Here are two of them:

1)Used to harden the meaning:

Şirin mi şirin bir kasaba 

2)Used as a conjunction

Ezan okundu mu doğru camiye gider. 

Tarık komşularını çok sever. / Tarık loves his neigbours very much...

 

Tarık komşularını çok sever mi? / Does Tarık love his neighbours very much?

 

- mi/mı/mu are always added to the end of the sentence

It is not always placed in the end of the sentence:

Ben mi söylemişim?

Ahmet mi geldi?

--i m not sure that they refer to the pronoun "they"..

 

--- the difference between mı/mu stems from the sound harmony...

 

 

 

Yes it´s called qustion particle ("soru kelimeciği") But it behaves like suffix. It conforms to vocal harmony like suffixes and it may go between suffixes:

gid-er-sin; gid-er mi-sin

gel-ecek-sin; gel-ecek mi-sin

 

 

Take "ile" (=with) for example. It´s said to be a word when it´s written separately and suffix otherwise and conforms to vocal harmony.

benim ile

benim-le

 

bıçak ile

bıçak-la

 

So if those words like "ile", "ise", "idi", "imiş" are treated as suffixes why not "mi/mı/mu/mi"?

8.       scalpel
1472 posts
 04 Jul 2011 Mon 03:00 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

So if those words like "ile", "ise", "idi", "imiş" are treated as suffixes why not "mi/mı/mu/mi"?

 

Because that mutation hasn´t happened yet, and "mi" still is a word. When in the future you are able to append it to the words, it will be treated as a suffix, not now.Wink Btw the point you miss is that "ile", "ise", "idi" and "imiş" are categorical different words than mi as they all contain auxiliary verb "i". Maybe,who knows, "mi" will never have the same fate as them.{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

 

9.       Sweet_Paradise
73 posts
 04 Jul 2011 Mon 03:22 pm

ehhhh I think I am even more confused{#emotions_dlg.noway}

10.       si++
3785 posts
 05 Jul 2011 Tue 08:52 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

Because that mutation hasn´t happened yet, and "mi" still is a word. When in the future you are able to append it to the words, it will be treated as a suffix, not now.Wink Btw the point you miss is that "ile", "ise", "idi" and "imiş" are categorical different words than mi as they all contain auxiliary verb "i". Maybe,who knows, "mi" will never have the same fate as them.{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

 

 

Duh, it´s just an orthography again whether it is written separately.

 

 

 

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