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Hundreds of Orthodox pilgrims gather for second service at Sümela Monastery
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1.       tunci
7149 posts
 15 Aug 2011 Mon 01:52 pm

Hundreds of Orthodox pilgrims gather for second service at Sümela Monastery

15 August 2011, Monday / TODAYSZAMAN.COM,

Nearly 1,000 Orthodox Christians gathered for a historic service at Sümela Monastery in the Black Sea coastal province of Trabzon early Monday, marking the second religious ceremony held at the monastery in the history of the Turkish Republic. 
 

The Divine Liturgy, held on the occasion of the Feast of the Dormition of the Theotokos according to the Orthodox liturgical calendar (also known as the Assumption of Mary), was officiated by İstanbul-based Fener Greek Patriarch Bartholomew I. Pilgrims from Greece, Russia, Georgia and other countries traveled to the monastery, which currently serves as a museum. Around 500 pilgrims were admitted to the monastery during the service, and the remaining participants watched the event from large screens set up outside Sümela.

Beginning the homily by saying “Our Muslim brothers,” Bartholomew thanked the Turkish government, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and the Ministry of Culture and Tourism for allowing a second service at Sümela. Stating that Mary has a special place for both Muslims and Christians, he recalled a Quran verse which says: “And (remember) when the angels said: ‘O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allah has chosen you, purified you (from polytheism and disbelief), and chosen you above the women of the ‘Alamin´ (mankind and jinns) (of her lifetime),” the patriarch called for peace and brotherhood in Turkey and in the world during his speech.

The peace that we long for is vital, in particular during these days. We cannot rid ourselves of the burden of the tragic events in Norway yet. There is ongoing bloodshed in neighboring countries. Mothers are crying in our country.  … Let´s make a call from the high Sümela Mountain, from the presence of the feet of the Virgin Mary -- who is above all women --  to all Christians and Muslims for us, for humanity and for our future. This call can be a single word: peace, peace, peace. Mutual respect and love should be our only prayer,” the patriarch said. 

Bartholomew also wished Muslim a happy Ramadan and Eid al-Fitr. “May God accept your fasts,” he added.

The monastery was abandoned after the foundation of the Turkish Republic and the subsequent population exchange between Turks and Greeks. It has since become a major tourist destination along Turkey´s Black Sea coast.

The Turkish government last year allowed for an annual religious service to be held at the monastery in a gradual loosening of restrictions on religious expression. The government accepted the patriarchate´s request to hold last year´s celebration of the Feast of the Dormition of the Theotokos on Aug. 15 at Sümela Monastery. The service was again officiated by Fener Greek Patriarch Bartholomew.

 

2.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 01:06 pm

Blind leaders of blind people.

3.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 08:15 pm

Yes, such blindness to try to see the commonality in two different religions.  Celebrating the feast of the Assuption of Mary to heaven in the open, in a predominantly Muslim country. What were they thinking?!

4.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:10 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Yes, such blindness to try to see the commonality in two different religions.  Celebrating the feast of the Assuption of Mary to heaven in the open, in a predominantly Muslim country. What were they thinking?!

 

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Mat.7.


5.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:13 pm

Thanks for the bible lesson, Lemon.  I feel better knowing that you feel justified in judging everyone. 

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6.       tunci
7149 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:16 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Mat.7.


 

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; Luke : 6:37

7.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:36 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; Luke : 6:37

 

This is a favorite quotation of everyone who is on the wide road to destruction.

It is not me who condemns you it is the Word of God. I havent made my own religion, I just repeat what Bible says. If I condemn you I would condemn by my own standards, which is easy. I condemn your belief in religion not in God.

Fair enough. Good luck. Stay in your religion and seek not the truth. Rely on your deeds not on God. Remember, every good action of men is like a filthy rag to God. And He doesnt need your good deeds, He needs your absolute denial of yourself and everything dear to you and unconditional faith in Him without adding anything manmade.

All I know is that I am saved by my faith in Christ not by my good deeds or starvation.

8.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 10:40 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Thanks for the bible lesson, Lemon.  I feel better knowing that you feel justified in judging everyone. 

 

I am justified by the truth in Bible and I rush to assure you that I dont feel better when i judge you. I think. enough.

 

9.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 11:18 pm

Justified or not, you don´t have to be so insulting!

10.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Aug 2011 Wed 11:32 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Justified or not, you don´t have to be so insulting!

 

You did more insulting to me than I to you. Thank you.

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