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meaning of da (not the suffix)
1.       redg18
9 posts
 23 Aug 2011 Tue 06:12 am

I often see "da" used in sentences and I´m not sure of the meaning.

For example, "da" at the end of a sentence

 

I´ve seen it used as " Yeni ogreniyorum da" as in "It´s because I´m newly learning it."

So i take it as "because". But then I see it in other sentences and it doesn´t make sense to translate it as "because" when it´s at the end.

 

For example "Yani onu hatırlıyorum da."  I can´t make out what it means.  Is it just for emphasis?

Or, Ben de (although I´ve seen it writen as Bende) and the "de" doesn´t seem to translate to "too" or "also" all the time.

So in short...

When are "de" and "da" used and how do i use them appropriately?

Thanks.

2.       si++
3785 posts
 23 Aug 2011 Tue 10:27 am

 

Quoting redg18

I often see "da" used in sentences and I´m not sure of the meaning.

For example, "da" at the end of a sentence

 

I´ve seen it used as " Yeni ogreniyorum da" as in "It´s because I´m newly learning it."

So i take it as "because". But then I see it in other sentences and it doesn´t make sense to translate it as "because" when it´s at the end.

 

For example "Yani onu hatırlıyorum da."  I can´t make out what it means.  Is it just for emphasis?

Or, Ben de (although I´ve seen it writen as Bende) and the "de" doesn´t seem to translate to "too" or "also" all the time.

So in short...

When are "de" and "da" used and how do i use them appropriately?

Thanks.

 

Yes it means too or as well.

But at the end of sentence it gives the meaning "such/so that blah blah" or "and/but blah blah". It is similar to ki used at the end of a sentence.

Bilmem ki ... (... is not said and is expected to be understood in some way by the addressee) = I don´t know (what to do for example)

Bilmem de ... (the same) = I don´t know (but maybe you may know something or but maybe someone here knows, etc)

 

Yeni öğreniyorum da ... = I am still learning it (so I should be excused if I do something wrong for example).

 

So addressee is expected to understand something (with the help of the context as well) here.

3.       Abla
3648 posts
 23 Aug 2011 Tue 10:40 am

Don´t worry, redg18, until yesterday I was trying to figure out what is the difference between de and da. They say Ağır kazan geç kaynar and that´s what I keep telling myself as an excuse...

Good luck for your studies.

4.       si++
3785 posts
 23 Aug 2011 Tue 10:57 am

And for "bende" vs "ben de" confusion, see this for example:

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_50616

5.       redg18
9 posts
 24 Aug 2011 Wed 04:47 am

Arkadaşlar çok sağolun.


si++ : thanks for the explanations. I could never find any sort of explanation for this and I guess it´s (partly) because it´s meaning is often based on context. I also had no idea that "da" could be interchangeable with "ki" sometimes. I am going to refer to your explanations often until it sticks

 

Abla: Thanks for the support. I especially appreciated the proverb. I´m going to use that as my excuse too. (but mine may be "....çok geç kaynar.")

 

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