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(Small) Problems in Pronounciation
1.       Abla
3648 posts
 29 Aug 2011 Mon 02:55 pm

Turkish ortography is very transparent. Every phonem has a mark of it’s own, syllables are clear and even expectable assimilations (sonuç > sonucu) show in the written form of the words. Partly because of this I find Turkish quite easy to pronounce (English speaking learners may have a different opinion), I mean I have seen worse. You could use some musical talent for the accented last syllable but the good thing is even the non-accented syllables in a word sustain their phonetical quality (and don’t lose it like in Russian, for example).

There are still a couple of things which I have paid attention to:

1. The Turkish e seems to have a wide variety of appearances from narrow [e] to a clear [ä] whose quantity some speakers tend to lengthen, yerde > [yäärde]. I can’t find the reason even from the phonetical environment.

2. I read somewhere that yumuşak g (ğ doesn’t have to be pronounced at all. But I guess you can’t pretend that it doesn’t exist? Otherwise there would be a diphthong in words like ağır and Turkish has none. I think of ğ as a syllable border but this is only a result of thinking-to-myself.

3. Is there [ŋ] in Turkish? How do you pronounce banka?

4. You probably don’t pronounce the şs in değilmişsin as it is written, do you? Which sibilant eats the other one?

5. What is the correct Turkish r like? I hear it sometimes a proper trill (though not a very strong one) which is pronounced with the tip of the tongue but sometimes almost like a fricative where air is escaping from the mouth. Is this dialectal variation or what?

2.       si++
3785 posts
 29 Aug 2011 Mon 06:47 pm

 

Quoting Abla

Turkish ortography is very transparent. Every phonem has a mark of it’s own, syllables are clear and even expectable assimilations (sonuç > sonucu) show in the written form of the words. Partly because of this I find Turkish quite easy to pronounce (English speaking learners may have a different opinion), I mean I have seen worse. You could use some musical talent for the accented last syllable but the good thing is even the non-accented syllables in a word sustain their phonetical quality (and don’t lose it like in Russian, for example).

There are still a couple of things which I have paid attention to:

1. The Turkish e seems to have a wide variety of appearances from narrow [e] to a clear [ä] whose quantity some speakers tend to lengthen, yerde > [yäärde]. I can’t find the reason even from the phonetical environment.

Do you think it´s widespread usage. I have never paid attention to it.

2. I read somewhere that yumuşak g (ğ doesn’t have to be pronounced at all. But I guess you can’t pretend that it doesn’t exist? Otherwise there would be a diphthong in words like ağır and Turkish has none. I think of ğ as a syllable border but this is only a result of thinking-to-myself.

I believe I myself pronounce it but for many people it will legthen the preceeding vocal.

3. Is there [ŋ] in Turkish? How do you pronounce banka?

You can hear it in Anatolian dialects. But in Istanbul Turkish it disappeared. Banka is

ban - ka

4. You probably don’t pronounce the şs in değilmişsin as it is written, do you? Which sibilant eats the other one?

I do personally. But sometimes we say it and even write it as:

değilmişin

gitmişin; gitmişiniz

gelmişin; gelmişiniz

etc.

5. What is the correct Turkish r like? I hear it sometimes a proper trill (though not a very strong one) which is pronounced with the tip of the tongue but sometimes almost like a fricative where air is escaping from the mouth. Is this dialectal variation or what?
There are dialectal variations but we also use both variations sometimes. For example yürü is normally said as a proper trill and sometimes yürrü like a fricative. 
 

 

 

3.       Abla
3648 posts
 29 Aug 2011 Mon 07:26 pm

Funny. I was sure about this "ä" but perhaps I was wrong. I´ll keep listening. Thanks for answering, si++.

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