Türkçe konuşmak denerim

I try to talk Turkish

What I am trying to explore is whether the mastar hali verb form can be used with all (most?) following verbs or whether it is limited to just certain verbs.

Hi Bod,
Except 'istemek', which is an auxiliary verb, I can't think of any other verb that would be used with mastar hali. So you could say "konuşmak istiyorum" and well thats it.
You can also build noun sentences which don't have a conjugated verb but instead have a noun. Here are some noun sentences:

İstanbul çok güzel.
Türkçe konuşmak çok güzel.
Türkçe konuşmak çok zor.
As you see it doesn't matter whether the object is a noun (İstanbul) or an action (Türkçe konuşmak) in noun sentences. There is no difference.

When a conjugated verb (except istemek) applies to an action then you simply use the infinitive (-mek,-mak) or short infinitive (-me,-ma) with a case suffix. So it would be:

konuş + ma + y + ı : verb stem + short infinitive + buffer + accusative case

I have decided to use the term "short infinitive" instead "verbal noun suffix". After all the infinitive is the noun form of a verb.

example:
Türkçe konuşmayı seviyorum.

Of course other verbs will take other cases. For instance we say;

-den hoşlanmak
-den nefret etmek
-den bıkmak
-i sevmek
-e ihtiyacı olmak
-de sakınca olmamak

Aynı şarkıyı sürekli dinlemekten hoşlanıyorum.
Sıcakta dolaşmaktan nefret ediyorum.
Sıcak bira içmekten bıktım.
Bira içmeyi seviyor musun?
Soğuk bir bira içmeye ihtiyacım var.
Herşeyi açıkça konuşmakta sakınca yok.

Unfortunately there is no way around the case suffixes with verbs when verbs are the object of a sentence.

"Türkçe konuşmak için çalışırım" is too weak.
Alternatives are:

"Türkçe konuşmak için çok çalışıyorum".
I'm working very hard to speak Turkish.

"Türkçe konuşmaya çalışıyorum".
I'm trying to speak Turkish.

Notice that "çalışmak" has two meanings: "to work" and "to try".

İçin (for, to) makes it unneccessary to use a case suffix. "Konuşmak için" would translate as "to talk" (for talking) which is different than the infinitive "to talk". I just realised the "to" in front of a verb in English is not always infinitive but is the other "to".


"Türkçe konuşmak denerim" is unfortunately incorrect. Denemek takes -i.

"Türkçe konuşmayı deniyorum"

Hi Bod,

By a weak sentence I mean a sentence that is grammatically correct but isn't well constructed. I say weak when the sentence is not in the nature of the language. The same applies to other languages. In English it is also possible to build sentences that are grammatically correct but are not strongly build. In fact some of my English sentences are good examples of that.

I thought it's a good idea to point to sentences that are not well build and to improve them. Maybe I should leave them alone. Thank you for your suggestion.

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Merhaba!

I am Native English and recently visited Turkey, where I met my Turkish boyfriend. I am now back in England while he is in the army so I would like to learn Turkish, I have tried some but my understanding is not very good!

Ali.