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10.       si++
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 11 Oct 2011 Tue 05:46 pm

 

Quoting Abla

Suppose the if-clause is of the type ´there is, there are´. In which cases does var or yok have to be replaced with ol-, olma-? I see both olsaydı and varsaydı, olmasaydı and yoksaydı and I don´t know where the border is.

 

For real condition (not hypothetical) of simple present and past and hearsay, you should use var/yok

if there is x = x var ise

if there is not x = x yok ise

 

if there was x yesterday = dün x vardı ise

if there was not x yesterday = dün x yoktu ise

 

if there is said to be x = x var imiş ise

if there is not said to be x = x yokmuş ise

 

if there was said to be x yesterday = dün x varmış (idi) ise

if there was not said to be x yesterday = dün x yokmuş (idi) ise

 

 

11.       Abla
3648 posts
 11 Oct 2011 Tue 06:31 pm

When you talk about real conditions do you mean like types I and II in the above system? (It´s dull to ask the same things always, I know, but it´s vital to understand the terminology.)



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12.       si++
3785 posts
 11 Oct 2011 Tue 06:42 pm

 

Quoting Abla

When you talk about real conditions do you mean like types I and II in the above system? (It´s dull to ask the same things always, I know, but it´s vital to understand the terminology.)

 

Yes but that list does not mention past tense forms.

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