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10.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 08:33 pm

yes, and I know men who left too......things are bad all over

Quoting stumpy

and I have heard women from Iran who lived through the revolution and left Iran

 

 

11.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 09:11 pm

Are these instances part of a crack down because of the recent uprisings in Iran...or has it always been like this?  We have heard so little of what goes on inside Iran since the Revolution but it seems lately (every week practically) there is a new trial going on that sparks curiosity in the rest of the world. 

12.       tunci
7149 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 09:38 pm

 

There is no doubt that there are tousands of witnesses about whats happening in Iran that fled outside Iran ,living all around the world. And there is no doubt that majority of Iranians are not happy with the way they are administrated.

In Islam there are rules to obey. But it is up to person whether to obey them or not. Only God knows the hearts and only Him [Allah] knows who will go to heaven ,who will not.

The state shouldnt say " Look , this is how I interpret your religion " obey this  otherwise you are all potential criminals in our eyes " 

Not only in Iran, Saudi Arabia and some other countries are in wrongdoings as well.

 

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13.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 09:38 pm

The crack down was brutal....from all accounts, really brutal. I remember the tragic death of Neda. Who really knows what is going on? The whole world is in turmoil now. I wish some of those @!#$% financial wizzards who caused the world wide economic problem would be punished and made to pay it all back. 

It´s a disgrace and they shouldn´t be allowed to enjoy the spoils of their theft while the rest of us suffer. How many deaths have happened from it? How many could not afford medical treatment or who knows what else that led to suffering?

When economy is good, everything goes much better. When people are stressed about where they will live, how they will afford to live all sorts of things come to the surface....and it´s not pretty. Most problems are caused by asset controls. As long as people have something to loose, things are east to control. When people think there is nothing to loose, things get dangerous. It looks like we are entering that time now. 

We have too many problems at home to be looking at other people´s yards to "solve" their problems. For me, I´m concerned with what is going on in my yard. 

Quoting Elisabeth

Are these instances part of a crack down because of the recent uprisings in Iran...or has it always been like this?  We have heard so little of what goes on inside Iran since the Revolution but it seems lately (every week practically) there is a new trial going on that sparks curiosity in the rest of the world. 

 

 

14.       stumpy
638 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 09:57 pm

Quote: tunci

The state shouldnt say " Look , this is how I interpret your religion " obey this  otherwise you are all potential criminals in our eyes "
It is not for the state to say how religion is to be interpreted and it is not for the Imam, Rabby of Preist to say how a state shold be run.  Religion is religion and politics is politics, the two should never be one

15.       stumpy
638 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 09:58 pm

Quote: Alemeda

I remember the tragic death of Neda.
andI remember the revolution of 1979

16.       alameda
3499 posts
 10 Oct 2011 Mon 11:24 pm

As do many of us....then there was Mossadegh....do you know about that? ....or about the British/US intervention that so changed events in the area?

Well, for some reason my link did (even after numerous attempts) not work, so if you are curious, do some research. 

Things are not always what they seem. 

Quoting stumpy

andI remember the revolution of 1979

 

 



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17.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Oct 2011 Tue 05:23 am

 

Quoting alameda

As do many of us....then there was Mossadegh....do you know about that? ....or about the British/US intervention that so changed events in the area?

Well, for some reason my link did (even after numerous attempts) not work, so if you are curious, do some research. 

Things are not always what they seem. 

 

 

 

Just FYI...your link works fine.  Not sure why you are having a problem.  

18.       alameda
3499 posts
 11 Oct 2011 Tue 10:02 am

The one there now does work, but I had another one that did not work. I just removed it in the end. It was about the 1953 Iranian coup e´etat...

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

Just FYI...your link works fine.  Not sure why you are having a problem.  

 

 

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