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Gaddafi dies of wounds, NTC official says
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 12:03 am |
As we are talking, certain people are looking for excuses to settle the account with Ahmedinejad.
When this is done, a new villain will have to be created.
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 12:08 am |
You know, gokuyum, most people are not capable of criticizing the system their communities are based on. Actually very few are. The majority eats the cake just as it is served to them. But still I can´t imagine what kind of protest I should make to be arrested in my own country... If my protest would base on facts it would be welcomed.
I can´t see your last message, vineyards. A pity. - I mean message number 8. Maybe your finger slipped.
Edited (10/23/2011) by Abla
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 12:21 am |
I have this weird problem. Sometimes, my message disappears after I post it.
In that message I was trying to present the East as the lesser evil not hugely responsible for global acts of malice and how in fact it is being used by the powers-that-be who are doing their best to satanize it.
Edited (10/23/2011) by vineyards
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 12:26 am |
May Allah help Libyan people if those who savagely lynched a man and who played drums and joyfully danced on the streets over the man´s death and who waited for hours in a long line to take a photo of the man´s corpse as a memory and who shouted "allahu akbar" as if killing him had something to do with islam religion are going to rule the country..
Khadafi was the only leader of the oil producing countries whose people benefited from the wealth of his country. It was said that from health to tertiary education abroad, virtually all social services were free of charge in Libya. Each family had its home or apartment and owned one to three vehicles. It had also a direct bonus from oil revenue..
There had to be another way to be rid of Khadafi and live in a democratic country..
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 02:11 am |

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23 Oct 2011 Sun 03:52 am |
You know, gokuyum, most people are not capable of criticizing the system their communities are based on. Actually very few are. The majority eats the cake just as it is served to them. But still I can´t imagine what kind of protest I should make to be arrested in my own country... If my protest would base on facts it would be welcomed.
I can´t see your last message, vineyards. A pity. - I mean message number 8. Maybe your finger slipped.
Maybe if you try harder you can find a way to be arrested. Because such a thing is highly possible when you criticise the system.
Now i want to say a few things about Kaddafi.
If you rule a country with fear ;no matter how much you give your people they will rebel. Because people starts getting paranoid in time. And that violence (which I also condemn) against Kaddafi is a result of social madness which Kaddafi caused in 40 years. After dictatorships in Arabic world, it seems theocratic governments will be voted. And violence will keep going on. Because the best way to justify violence is to use religion. And this time if they rise up again they will be blamed as infidels. Don´t think I blame Islam religion I blame extremist and opportunist approaches to Islam.
Edited (10/23/2011) by gokuyum
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 08:50 am |
I can imagine only one thing that might lead into trouble in some European countries. It´s holocaust. But not even that in my small county. At its worst they would say I am mad. But there are laws about holocaust in some European countries, I don´t remember where exactly. Interestingly denying holocaust might give you prison but you can deny the massacre that Belgium committed in Kongo as you like.
I like what gokuyum says about Gaddafi. The "Brotherly Leader" as they always called him on Libyan TV very much chose his own destiny. He wanted to die in Libya and take with him as much people as he could. Years of tyranny change people, war changes people and I don´t fint it very strange if there were some stupidities shown at the time of his death.
When I look at what happened in Libya and the worse that is still going on in Syria I can not but respect the way Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak gave up and left when the street asked him to. He was certainly a killer and a thief, one of the worst, and he ruled Egypt in a brutal way which actually made everyone afraid of his neighbour. But he left without bloodshed. If I was asked he should be forgiven his crimes because of this act only if not for anything else. This overpopulated country is a mess anyway, it certainly doesn´t need any more violence. I don´t like the thought of the old man being given death sentence.
Edited (10/23/2011) by Abla
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 10:02 am |
I wasnt expecting myself I would ever feel sorry for Gaddafi, but I did after I saw him being lynched barbaricly by rebels...
Seeing that scene made me feel questioning the so called "Arap Spring".. Ok. he was a bloody dictator. I wanted him to suffer but not this way..I mean he could have suffered in prison or after he was judged in the court. And they could have judged him by Islamic laws in the court and then punished him...
I started believing that "Arap Spring" is a part of plan that is gonna lead Arap world into more caos and disunity.. Why is that reminded me of Lawrence of Arabia and his fellow traitors [some arab tribes] when I saw those rebels lyncing Gaddafi...I know thats not exactly the same things to compare but they have a common point which is " becoming a new captivity under Western imperialists " in other words " captivity of Oil "
Old captivity finished but new captivity is about to start....
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 02:25 pm |
I would feel sorry even for anyone else who was killed that way..and I don´t find it normal or acceptable what those beasts did to a captured man..and who finds it acceptable is part of that violence..if those bunch of uncontrollabled beasts is the real face the powers that are going to built a new Libya, I should say Libyan people will soon miss their crazy dictator..there is this old saying, "nations are ruled as they deserve"..
Edited (10/23/2011) by scalpel
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23 Oct 2011 Sun 02:48 pm |
Tears in my eyes. Glad, this last dictator hunt was accomplished flawlessly. No one accuses the West despite its obvious role both in Libya and the rest of the Arab world. They did not drop their bombs, they did not stir any troubles, they did not arm any parties within the country and now they have every right to accuse the so-called freedom fighters of cruelty.
That´s good, anyway, no one is asking questions to the government in the West. When you are free and democratic by nature, why would you need other regimes or different points of view? Just bomb the bastards´ land if they are misbehaving...
What you and some others seem to forget vineyards was that it was The Arab League who went to the United Nations and asked for intervention in Libya to protect the people. Now The Arab League are turning their attention to Syria. I myself am worried about what will happen in Libya with all the different factions.
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