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English is not easy
1.       Henry
2604 posts
 03 Dec 2011 Sat 02:45 pm

Many native English speakers nowadays have very little knowledge of English grammar. This is because todays educators put a priority on creativity, and not as much emphasis on language skills.

Anyway, for Turks, English must also be very hard to learn and master.

Here is an item that I copied about the various tenses in English

Tenses Fiil kipi her zaman 4 var
present has 4 tenses, past has 4 tenses, future has 4 tenses 

Four tenses in the present şimdiki zaman
Simple Present Tense geniş zaman
I go to dentist every six months 
Her altı ayda bir dişçiye giderim 

Present Continuous Tense 
You are learning English 
Şimdi İngilizce öğreniyorsunuz 

Present Perfect Tense 
We have lived in Antakya since 2006 
2006 yılından beri Antakya´da yaşıyoruz 

Present Perfect Continuous Tense 
He is very tired. He has been working very hard 
Çok yorgun. Uzun zamandır sıkı çalışmakta. 

Four tenses in the past gecmiş zaman
Simple Past Tense 
I saw Shirley when I was in Alanya 
Alanyadayken Shirley´i gördüm 

Past Perfect Tense 
started learning English last year 
Geçen yıl İngilizce öğrenmeye başladım 

Past Continuous Tense 
was watching TV when she called. 
O aradığında televizyon izliyordum . 

Past Perfect Continuous Tense 
I was tired because I had been running 
yorgundum çünkü koşuyordum

4 tenses in the future gelecek zaman
Future Tense 
I am going to see my friend this afternoon 
Arkadaşımla öğlenden sonra görüşeceğim 

Future Continuous Tense 
We will be having a picnic at the weekend 
Hafta sonu piknik yapıyor olacağız 

Future Perfect Tense 
By tomorrow evening I will have read this book 
Bu kitabı yarın akşama kadar okumuş olacağım. 

Future Perfect Continuous Tense 
By the time we get to Alanya my father will have been driving for 12 hours 

Alanya’ya vardığımızda, babam beş saattir araba sürüyor olacak 

with thanks to Shirleyanne from Alanya for her translations {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

Neyse, İngilizce çok zor!!! Smile



Edited (12/3/2011) by Henry [corrected Turkish error in last example]

2.       tunci
7149 posts
 03 Dec 2011 Sat 03:04 pm

 

Quoting Henry

Many native English speakers nowadays have very little knowledge of English grammar. This is because todays educators put a priority on creativity, and not as much emphasis on language skills.

Anyway, for Turks, English must also be very hard to learn and master.

Here is an item that I copied about the various tenses in English

Tenses Fiil kipi her zaman 4 var
present has 4 tenses, past has 4 tenses, future has 4 tenses 

Four tenses in the present şimdiki zaman
Simple Present Tense geniş zaman
I go to dentist every six months 
Her altı ayda bir dişçiye giderim 

Present Continuous Tense 
You are learning English 
Şimdi İngilizce öğreniyorsunuz 

Present Perfect Tense 
We have lived in Antakya since 2006 
2006 yılından beri Antakya´da yaşıyoruz 

Present Perfect Continuous Tense 
He is very tired. He has been working very hard 
Çok yorgun. Uzun zamandır sıkı çalışmakta. 

Four tenses in the past gecmiş zaman
Simple Past Tense 
I saw Shirley when I was in Alanya 
Alanyadayken Shirley´i gördüm 

Past Perfect Tense 
started learning English last year 
Geçen yıl İngilizce öğrenmeye başladım 

Past Continuous Tense 
was watching TV when she called. 
O aradığında televizyon izliyordum . 

Past Perfect Continuous Tense 
I was tired because I had been running 
yorgundum çünkü koşuyordum

4 tenses in the future gelecek zaman
Future Tense 
I am going to see my friend this afternoon 
Arkadaşımla öğlenden sonra görüşeceğim 

Future Continuous Tense 
We will be having a picnic at the weekend 
Hafta sonu piknik yapıyor olacağız 

Future Perfect Tense 
By tomorrow evening I will have read this book 
Bu kitabı yarın akşama kadar okumuş olacağım. 

Future Perfect Continuous Tense 
By the time we get to Alanya my father will have been driving for 12 hours 

Alanya’ya vardığımızda, babamı beş saattir araba sürüyor olacağı 

with thanks to Shirleyanne from Alanya for her translations {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

Neyse, İngilizce çok zor!!! Smile

 

 Great Lesson , Henry. I agree that English is not easy to learn. Actually any language is not easy if you are learning it from scratch . I just want to edit the last sentence if you dont mind .

Future Perfect Continuous Tense 
By the time we get to Alanya my father will have been driving for 12 hours 

Alanya’ya vardığımızda, babam beş saattir araba sürüyor olacak. 

my father = babam

olacak = he will be

sürüyor olacak = he will have been driving

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3.       Abla
3648 posts
 03 Dec 2011 Sat 03:14 pm

Thank you for the post, Henry. I find tenses one of the most difficult things in Turkish to learn. When I am corrected I just accept it and shake my head. It´s difficult to get to the heart of the problem if you understand what I mean.

But I have learned something, too. What I learned shows in your examples: what is called perfect tense in English is actually present in the Turkish system: Bir yıl Türkçe öğreniyorum. Actually it makes sense as the action takes place as well in the present moment as it did in the past.

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4.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 03 Dec 2011 Sat 03:29 pm

 

Quoting Abla

Thank you for the post, Henry. I find tenses one of the most difficult things in Turkish to learn. When I am corrected I just accept it and shake my head. It´s difficult to get to the heart of the problem if you understand what I mean.

But I have learned something, too. What I learned shows in your examples: what is called perfect tense in English is actually present in the Turkish system: Bir yıldır Türkçe öğreniyorum. Actually it makes sense as the action takes place as well in the present moment as it did in the past.

 

"dır" means "for" here and "dan/den beri" means since. You should use them. You can use "dan/den beri" instead of "dır" but you cant do the opposite.



Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum

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5.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 03 Dec 2011 Sat 03:40 pm

"dır" and "den/dan beri" gives a continuity meaning and you can use it with past continous tense also.

Bir yıldır orada çalışıyordu. 

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6.       Abla
3648 posts
 03 Dec 2011 Sat 05:14 pm

Good you noticed, gokuyum. I know it in theory but I am not familiar with the structure yet.

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