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1.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 15 Jun 2006 Thu 07:17 pm

why is it that some sentences start with ki..

i thought it means something like that??

2.       nicksiz
20 posts
 15 Jun 2006 Thu 07:53 pm

can u give some examples?

3.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 15 Jun 2006 Thu 08:21 pm

no! sorry..

but i have heard it honestly....

4.       yasemin_x
15 posts
 15 Jun 2006 Thu 09:10 pm

Ki can also be added to the end of a sentence to mean the same as ! (an exclamation)
As Turkish word order is more flexible than English maybe it is just emphasising that??

5.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 01:44 pm

There are different examples about "ki"

Misafirlere o kadar samimi davranıyordu ki gelenleri daha önceden tanıyor gibiydi..
Here: he behaves so sincere that as if he met people who came before.
"that" is maybe the directly translation here.

or one more:
kardeşim dedi ki, annemler yarın geleceklermiş.
my sister said that my parents will come tomorrow.

here, it is also "that". what else?

Tam odaya girmişti ki, arkadaşları sürpriz diye bağırdılar.
As he just entered into the room, his friends screamed "surprize"

I dont know here, where is "ki" in this sentence

6.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 02:32 pm

thanks for the explanation caliptrix but i already know this hehehe


ok, you know seray sever, i could have sworn that in one of her songs she starts some of her lines with "ki"??

7.       mltm
3690 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 04:02 pm

Mesela şÃ¶yle mi?

I made up these sentences. I'm not 100% sure if a sentence can start with "ki", but anyway I wrote a sentence like that as well, I think it won't be very wrong.However, I usually see it connected to the sentence with the sign "-". This kind of "ki" is different then the other two "ki"s you know. It's used to give a fact. Maybe, you can understand better when you read them.

Duvarı sarıya boyayacaklarmış-ki zaten ben de sarıyı istiyordum.

Odamı toplamadım diye-ki toplamıştım-bana kızdı.

Paramı çalmadığını söylediğinde-ki çalmıştı-deliye döndüm.

Bu haftasonu eğer hava güzel olursa-ki meteoroloji öyle olacağını söyledi-pikniğe gideriz.

Hoca bana derste konuştuğum için çok kızdı.Ki ağzımı bile açmamıştım!

8.       erdinc
2151 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 04:35 pm

If it is at the begining of a phrase (usually it is after a comma) then ki means "in fact", "but actually" or "indeed". It is a conjunction.

9.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 17 Jun 2006 Sat 05:50 pm

Thank you.. thats much clearer now

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