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30.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 20 Apr 2012 Fri 08:52 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

 

I got used to insults. Its ok because you dont know what you are saying and what you are gonna face in afterlife.

 

Your problem is you talk too big. Everyone has his own truth. Accept that and dont try to save us. Because nobody will thank you for that.

31.       Abla
3648 posts
 20 Apr 2012 Fri 10:03 pm

Quote:lemon

...Greece...

 

 

Accepting Greece to European Money Union was a naive decision which was based more on cultural than economic reasons. It was a beautiful thought that Greece to whose culture the whole continent owes so much shares the common currency from its very beginning. The state of Greek economy was ignored at that point. This has been admitted afterwards and this is what we are paying for now.

 

I personally believe Europe is going to overcome the crisis. The governments have a serious intention to help Greece out also even though it is going to be a long road.



Edited (4/20/2012) by Abla

32.       metehan2001
501 posts
 20 Apr 2012 Fri 10:14 pm

 

Quoting lemon

This is a childish text full of pretenses and prejudices on ridiculous base. Why the heck Turkish people care about european honesty? {#emotions_dlg.unsure} Lalalala tralalala! {#emotions_dlg.whistle}

Christian club? ech... sigh... Show me christians in europe! Where are they? In fact, you will find twice if not more much amount of devout muslims in comparison to christians.

Get your facts, Europe is completely atheitized today and partially islamized through so called multi culture tolerance. And the foundation of EU is Roman Empire not Christianity!

 

 

 

 

1. Lemon, while you are accusing my text as "childish" and my opinions as "nonsense", you are just presenting yourself as an "illogic, childish and nonsense" person. It seems that it is impossible to make you understand what I am trying to say, but as you have asked me to present a proof on the statement that "European Union is a Christian Club", I am quoting the following passage from a report which you can find in below link. (I hope before sending your reply, you read the whole Report.)

http://www.secularism.org.uk/90440.html

"EU really is a Christian club

NSS Council member ELIZABETH O’CASEY reports from a depressing experience in Brussels

A couple of weeks ago, I attended — as a Council member of the NSS — the European People’s Party (Christian Democrats) and European Democrats’ (EPP-ED) hearing on “Cultural Diversity, Religions and Dialogue” at the European Parliament. The meeting was organized with the intention of exploring the role of dialogue and religion within the EU and to formulate potential policies accordingly. I was invited on the premise that it would be good to have a secularist voice present. I was not prepared however for being the only secularist voice present.

The EPP-ED is one of the political groups of the European Parliament; it is the largest of the seven groups with 785 members. Thus, it represents many of the major political parties across Europe who fall into the centre-right/Christian democrat category (for example, the Conservative party of Britain, Nicholas Sarkozy’s UMP party in France or Angela Merkel’s CDU party in Germany).

(.....)  I was constantly reminding myself that I was (alas) in the democratic centre of Europe in the twenty-first century and that I was amongst people belonging to the largest political group of Europe, amongst people with influence. I could not help feel that the speakers and politicians present at this hearing were not representing their constituents, rather that they were illegitimately claiming the EU as a Christian club with which to privilege faith-based groups."

 

2. Lemon, the following quotation is another proof. It gives the view of Former French President Valery Giscard d´Estaing on Turkey´s membership for European Union. Here is the link:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2420697.stm

"The man shaping the future constitution of the European Union was quoted on Friday as saying Turkey´s entry into the EU would be "the end of Europe".

Former French President Valery Giscard d´Estaing told Le Monde newspaper that people who backed Turkey´s accession were "the adversaries of the European Union".

Correspondents say there is continuing debate among member countries about whether Turkey is culturally and geographically compatible with the European Union - and that a broad strand of opinion that says it is not."

 



Edited (4/20/2012) by metehan2001

33.       metehan2001
501 posts
 20 Apr 2012 Fri 10:27 pm

 

Dear Lemon, here is another quotation from a european politician´s speech. I think it is enough to write on the topic and this will be my last reply to you.

Does Europe’s new prez really think it’s a Christian club?

Europe’s new president, Herman Van Rompuy, is little known outside his native Belgium. One of the few background facts about him circulating since his election is his  opposition to Turkish membership   in the European Union.  The operative quote, expressed in a 2004 speech when he was an opposition deputy in the Belgian parliament, is:

Turkey is not a part of Europe and will never be part of Europe. An expansion of the EU to include Turkey cannot be considered as just another expansion as in the past . . . The universal values which are in force in Europe, and which are fundamental values of Christianity, will lose vigour with the entry of a large Islamic country such as Turkey.”

The link is http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/20/does-europes-new-prez-really-think-its-a-christian-club/

 

 



Edited (4/20/2012) by metehan2001
Edited (4/20/2012) by metehan2001

34.       lemon
1374 posts
 21 Apr 2012 Sat 06:20 am

I am sorry I cannot accept your talk. There cannot be many truths as there cannot be many salvations and many gods. Because it is illogic.

There is one Truth, one Way and one God.

Why do you say so? I think God is pleased seeing that I care and try bring Good News.

You look at our talk as clash of religions, cultures and civilizations. You see politics. And you think that you should win the "debate". No problem. 

From my point I wish everyone wins and goes to see Heaven. I see all things perishing including politics, health, economics, EU, Turkey, the planet, children, families, good people, bad people, wisdom, stupidity etc.

When you for the last time close your eyes, you will never open them to those things again. All you see will be Gods extreme wrath or grace.

 

Quoting gokuyum

 

 

Your problem is you talk too big. Everyone has his own truth. Accept that and dont try to save us. Because nobody will thank you for that.

 

 

35.       bydand
755 posts
 21 Apr 2012 Sat 11:35 pm

 

Quoting lemon

I am sorry I cannot accept your talk. There cannot be many truths as there cannot be many salvations and many gods. Because it is illogic.

There is one Truth, one Way and one God.

Why do you say so? I think God is pleased seeing that I care and try bring Good News.

You look at our talk as clash of religions, cultures and civilizations. You see politics. And you think that you should win the "debate". No problem. 

From my point I wish everyone wins and goes to see Heaven. I see all things perishing including politics, health, economics, EU, Turkey, the planet, children, families, good people, bad people, wisdom, stupidity etc.

When you for the last time close your eyes, you will never open them to those things again. All you see will be Gods extreme wrath or grace.

 

 

 

 What a load of cobblers.{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

 

36.       lemon
1374 posts
 21 Apr 2012 Sat 11:41 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 What a load of cobblers.{#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

 

 

We will when we get there and then will see who wiill do this {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}.

 

37.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 22 Apr 2012 Sun 10:44 am

 

Quoting lemon

This is a childish text full of pretenses and prejudices on ridiculous base. Why the heck Turkish people care about european honesty? {#emotions_dlg.unsure} Lalalala tralalala! {#emotions_dlg.whistle}

Christian club? ech... sigh... Show me christians in europe! Where are they? In fact, you will find twice if not more much amount of devout muslims in comparison to christians.

Get your facts, Europe is completely atheitized today and partially islamized through so called multi culture tolerance. And the foundation of EU is Roman Empire not Christianity!

 

 

 

 

We are in no great hurry lemon.

When Eupeans disappear of hypocracy and old age We shall be there.

I think you are beginning to get the general idea; Turks in Eastern and North Africans in Western Europe will look ver good. Europeans will go and join their ancestors, the Romans.

 

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