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\"olduğumuzu\"
1.       Annabelle
4 posts
 07 Aug 2012 Tue 06:21 pm

Merhaba !

 

I have some trouble understanding some grammatical points in the text I´m trying to read....

- Sonra Fabius nerede olduğumuzu anlatmaya koyuldu

- yani insanların orada olduğumuzu anladı. I can grasp the main meaning, but I don´t understand how olduğumuzu is formed or how it´s used. 

Could someone help ? 

Thank you !

 

2.       Abla
3648 posts
 07 Aug 2012 Tue 07:20 pm

Quote:Annabelle

1. Sonra Fabius nerede olduğumuzu anlatmaya koyuldu

2. yani insanların orada olduğumuzu anladı.

 

ol|duğ|umuz|u = verb stem + participle marking -DIK- + possessive suffix pl 1st + accusative ending

 

1. -DIK- participle is used in an indirect question.

 

Fabius  -  SUBJECT

Fabius koy|ul|du  -  ´Fabius was put/ordered´

Fabius anlat|ma|y|a koyuldu  -  ´Fabius was ordered to tell´

To tell what? The embedded sentence is

 

                           Neredeydik? ´Where were we/have we been?´

 

When we make the sentence a constituent (OBJECT) of the sentence frame, -DIK- participle must be used. We ask the ol- stem for help. The personal ending changes into a possessive suffix and the whole package is marked with accusative.

 

2. Are you sure you have copied it correctly, Annabelle? I see a contradiction. Maybe

 

                            yani insanların orada olduğunu anladı

 

But maybe I am wrong. Or maybe more words are needed to understand it.

 



Edited (8/7/2012) by Abla
Edited (8/7/2012) by Abla
Edited (8/7/2012) by Abla

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3.       tunci
7149 posts
 07 Aug 2012 Tue 07:51 pm

 

yani insanların orada olduğumuzu anladı.

 

To make it sense , we have to get rid of -ın.

 

  so, people understood [found out, realized] that we have been [were] there.

  yani insanlar  orada olduğumuzu anladı.



Edited (8/7/2012) by tunci

4.       Abla
3648 posts
 07 Aug 2012 Tue 07:54 pm

Yep.

5.       Blogger
12 posts
 07 Aug 2012 Tue 09:49 pm

Hello, I had written an article about "olduğunu" 

http://blog.learnturkisheasy.com/2012/07/oldugunu-that-is.html

After you read that lesson,

just replace the subject he/she/it with we.

Hope that helps.

 

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6.       Annabelle
4 posts
 24 Aug 2012 Fri 10:01 am

Thanks a lot everybody, that really helped ! 

 

Annabelle

7.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 24 Aug 2012 Fri 10:11 am

Any action + koyulmak generally signifies one´s commencement of that action 

EXAMPLE

Anlatmaya koyuldu He/she started telling

Yürümeye koyuldu He/she started walking

8.       Abla
3648 posts
 25 Aug 2012 Sat 07:07 am

Quote:AlphaF

Any action + koyulmak generally signifies one´s commencement of that action 

EXAMPLE

Anlatmaya koyuldu He/she started telling

Yürümeye koyuldu He/she started walking

 

Sorry, I forgot. It is reflexive. And konmak is passive. Good you reminded us, AlphaF.

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