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Are Arabs getting smarter ?
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:30 pm |
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Just consider the identities of the speakers.
Even you should be able to understand that some Arabs are getting smarter...
Since you are the smart one, I believe that you should have known my ID...I said "no WE are not"...I don´t know much English , but what I know is that "we" refers to Arabs!!!
I am Arab, no matter the country...and I am proud.
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:38 pm |
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Actually smarter, which means more smart, is not a bad word.  They were smart and now smarter.
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:48 pm |
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Actually smarter, which means more smart, is not a bad word. They were smart and now smarter.
Literally yes, but not all can take that way. And plus, there is a bit of "sarcasm" in that.
Edited (9/18/2012) by tunci
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:52 pm |
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Can you not see that when you bring an issue with such title into this web-site [who have many arab members who are willing to learn Turkish] will offend Arab learners ?
and wont they feel like as as sort of "discriminating goal" behind this ?.
If you changed the title into a more general one such as "Islamic world or East or other countries" , that wont be that offensive. Dont you think Alpha ?
Those Arab members that you think are offended by these two videos here are under heavy censorship in their own countries and never hear these issues discussed openly.
The smarter Arab members should thank me for providing alternative views about Arabs, from definitely qualified Arab speakers, in reasonaby civilized manner.
Not so smart ones will get angry with me; they can always go burry their heads in the desert sand, if that is what they prefer.
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 01:59 pm |
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Since you are the smart one, I believe that you should have known my ID...I said "no WE are not"...I don´t know much English , but what I know is that "we" refers to Arabs!!!
I am Arab, no matter the country...and I am proud.
Of course you are proud to be an Arab. That is natural. Nothing wrong with that !
Those speakers on the video are probably just as proud to be Arabs. They only wish there were more things to be proud of, and question what exactly is holding Arabs back.
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 02:01 pm |
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Those Arab members that you think are offended by these two videos here are under heavy censorship in their own countries and never hear these issues discussed openly.
The smarter Arab members should thank me for providing alternative views about Arabs, from definitely qualified Arab speakers, in reasonaby civilized manner.
Not so smart ones will get angry with me; they can always go burry their heads in the desert sand, if that is what they prefer.
It is a civilized discussion, yes , and it is good that they can argue, discuss such issues.
However, the problem is you quoted these discussions without changing its sarcastic title [are arabs getting smarter].
is it too difficult to change the title ?
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 02:07 pm |
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Actually, it is not the title, I have just noticed that it is
Progress for Arab and Islamic World Can Only Come from Western Civilization
Why did you not use that ?
as you see, it says "for Arab and Islamic world". Not only Arabs.
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 02:27 pm |
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1. Atatürk also wanted us to face to the west. He wanted us to get the knowledge and the science from the west, He didnt want us to copy them as some people do nowadays in every field. [ some give English names to their business, some follow western traditons , some impose western way of life....etc]
He did aim at civilization, yes. He did not however, limit the source of civilization as West.
Some people in Turkey opposed his approch and ideas too, in ways very similar to Aida Krishan´s. Not all his opposers were traitors; some simply could not understand the depths of his vision.
2. "Progress for Arab and Islamic World Can Only Come from Western Civilization"
That, in my opinion, is total crap. West will not give anything to ascend welfare or humane qualities of any other group, religion, region, state or nation.. Progress for Arabs, or other developing countries, will have to come from within such people themselves.
Edited (9/18/2012) by AlphaF
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 02:43 pm |
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Governments dont want a population capable of critical thinking.
They want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines, and just dumb enough to
passively accept their situation.
George Carlin
NOTE:
(There are not many machines in most developing countries, either !)
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18 Sep 2012 Tue 02:49 pm |
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1. Atatürk also wanted us to face to the west. He wanted us to get the knowledge and the science from the west, He didnt want us to copy them as some people do nowadays in every field. [ some give English names to their business, some follow western traditons , some impose western way of life....etc]
He did aim at civilization, yes. He did not however, limit the source of civilization as West.
Some people in Turkey opposed his approch and ideas too, in ways very similar to Aida Krishan´s. Not all his opposers were traitors; some simply could not understand the depths of his vision.
2. "Progress for Arab and Islamic World Can Only Come from Western Civilization"
That, in my opinion, is total crap. West will not give anything to ascend welfare or humane qualities of any other group, religion, region, state or nation.. Progress for Arabs, or other developing countries, will have to come from within such people themselves.
Yes it is crap. It means they have to be dependent and give up their values for the sake of believing everything that West will impose them. [west already did and does by colonosim]
Of course ,Arabs and in general term Islamic world, themselves have to create their own development by using and improving the knowledge of the west.Take knowledge but dont let west shape or destroy your culture and other values.
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