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24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:28 pm |
This may be a stupid question but I am stuck on something in grammar that I learned before but forgot... It´s a bit difficult to explain but I will try my best... to explain with examples.
´They were coming´ = geliyor-lar-dı ... in this case the ´dı´ is imek-form, and these come after ´ler/lar´...
But my question is the next example... ´They have come´. Is it gel-ler-di (and is the ´di´ again too ´weak´ to break up ´lar´?) Or is it gel-di-ler (and is the ´di´ this time ´stronger´ because it´s not an imek-form this time?
I really need this answer so I hope someone can answer soon... Sorry if it´s a stupid question.
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:35 pm |
its not stupid. in "geli yor lar dı", there are two tenses. yor and dı. bileşik zaman. in "gel di ler" there is only one tense. dı.
ler comes after the first tense because the second tense, the "ek fiil", comes to the end of the word. gelmişlerdi, gelirlerdi, etc these are actually all gelmişler idi, gelirler idi etc. so the second tense comes to the end of the word, after everything.
Edited (8/24/2013) by burakk
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:38 pm |
So ler always comes after the first tense? So the correct answer to my second example is ´geldiler´?
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:49 pm |
Yes correct is geldiler
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:51 pm |
Oh I guess my professor is wrong because I have in my notes right in front of me ´geliyorlardı´. That ler/lar exceptionally comes before ´dı´ here because it´s an imek-form, a ´help-tense´ :-/
But thank you!!
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:52 pm |
Thank you to you too Burakk çok teşekkürler!
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:01 pm |
Oh I guess my professor is wrong because I have in my notes right in front of me ´geliyorlardı´. That ler/lar exceptionally comes before ´dı´ here because it´s an imek-form, a ´help-tense´ :-/
But thank you!!
Yes it is past of i-mek form. But there is no such a rule ler must come before it. At least I havent heart such a rule. Also you can look at the link I gave you for verb conjugations. It is like I said there too.
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:03 pm |
Tamam
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24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:15 pm |
actually both works
Past Progressive, narrative
ben geliyordum sen geliyordun o geliyordu biz geliyorduk siz geliyordunuz onlar geliyordular; geliyorlardı
Örnek: Bir güzelin hayranı i-di-m>hayranıydım, hayranı idik>hayranıydık Zeki idi>zekiydi Ali imiş>Ali’ymiş, Hasta ise>hastaysa, Nöbetçi iken>nöbetçiyken, Merhametli imişler>merhametliymişler Merhametliler imiş>merhametlilermiş
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