First because we have a TC protocol to not say anything slanderous to you I will say the remark in itself is stupid, corrupt and immoral and way off key and should embarass you. No where did I say anything about spitting and for you to get that idea only shows your remarkable level of intellect.

enough said on that part.

First what I think or feel regarding my country has nothing to do with TC. But I will say I did 2 tours in Kandahar Afghanistan to comply with RCAF. It was stupid and immoral to enter another country this way.
All wars are profitable...................except for those
that fight them ( soldier )

War is great business. You play on fear to get money. You build billions of dollars worth of stuff that gets destroyed and needs to replaced. The fact that millions of people suffer is not your concern. Your only obligation is to make a profit.

As far as the war of 1812, I guess we should of let them capture and keep montreal and the land of quebec.

To understand the conflict that led to the War of 1812 we must begin with the Treaty of 1783 that ended the War of Independence. The treaty was deliberately generous to the Americans. Recognizing their independence was a military necessity that other clauses, especially the transfer of the territory between the Appalachians and the Ohio River to the United States ignored the interests of the First Nations who had fought for the British and the Québec-based fur traders. The British Prime Minister, Lord Shelburne’s was convinced that the British Empire would best be served by free trade and harmonious relations with the United States. A peace treaty that gave Americans everything they could wish for would guarantee good relations and prosperity for Britain within an informal “empire.”

read your history before you remark.

Most soldiers even today have no clue as to why they go to another country to fight a war. They are either being paid to be stupid and obey or forced to be in the army.. Most soldiers are mostly uneducated, young and impressionable. The reason why so many joined the US forces was to be paid ( room, board shelter and training ) , get some money, hopefully some respect which often fell on deaf ears when they returned. It was a way to better themselves or so they thought. Now the USA has a huge amount of young undereducated PTSD members with the knowledge of how to kill. Great.... Many other countries are quietly battling with this too.

No one wins in war....

Bravo for you. 

If you think that way then why did you enroll in the army?  Seems that the military service is not obligatory.

Compared to you, I seem to have more respect for the soldiers than you do and they deserve a smidge of recognition for their services even if we are not completly in agreement with what they are ordere to do. 

And on a side note, if you think that you insult me when you poke at Montreal and Quebec, you are so off track, hahahaha, bring it on because I was born and raised in Ontario.

sorry for the interruption but i had to disagree with this

A more realistic account of the truth, is given by the description of the Turkish image by Clay Blair: “The Turks, commanded by Brigadier General Tahsin Yazici, had arrived in Korea like the Marines, in a blaze of publicity. With their colorful, flowing mustaches, swarthly complexions, and fierce demeanors, they gave war correspondents and others the impression they were very tough soldiers. The reality was that they were ill trained, ill led, and green to combat”.(5)

its not really a "more realistic account" since facial hair is not allowed in the military. clay blair wasprobably just making up some orientalist picture in his head when he hadnt seen the actualy scene, like all the orient-enthusiastic westeners tend to do.

also i have to add that not all armies in the world are adjsuted for murder. mostly the armys prime function is to defend. no country in this world can exist without the defensive role of an army. true that strong and demanding economies mostly mistreat this function of the army and reverse it, but at that time turkey saw the korean war as a way to get into nato and resist soviet demands for land and submission. it was a kind of war for survival, soldiers were collected from volunteers, and the propaganda actually made them believe that the division in the country wasnt an american-chinese chess game but that they were actually defending south koreas existence from the couping north (which was actually true after the shit has happaned, its just that the events that triggered it were artificial)

I found many pictures of them some with mustache´s and I don´t think they are doctored up

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&p=1364805

http://life.time.com/history/life-in-korea-rare-photos-from-the-forgotten-war/#1

http://www.picssr.com/photos/49761213@N04/popular-interesting

i would hardly count the few personelle "many", like i could hardly define their melee moustaches as "colorful, flowing moustaches" or facial hair

https://eksisozluk.com/23-sentlik-askere-dair--450731

This is a poem written by Nazim Hikmet.

The name of the poem is ´23 sentlik askere dair´ means ´about a soldier worth of 25 cent´.

It was written after Americans said that " The cost of Turkish soldiers is very cheap. They cost us  only 23 cent". He was talking about Turkish soldiers in Korea.

There is nothing heroic about following orders without thinking. Soldiers do not protect, they harm. They are paid killers. That isn´t honorable.

We may join armies thinking of being a hero and great heroic acts but we are reduce in time to nothing more than a tool for the goverment to order around.

In order to kill, on must cease to see individual human beings - reduce them to an abstraction " the enemy " even if they are woman/children.

Even in the entertainment world seldom are the bad guys shown at home with their loving family and children. It is easy to cheer on the death of a caricature verses a 3-dimensional person.

How can you even begin to think being a soldier is honorable. Even when you are not in a time of being sent out to kill for some political adgenda it is not a fun career.

There are more than 200 countries in the world with military cemeteries packed full of dead soldiers who were convinced they were helping to create a more peaceful and safer world. And yet the fighting continues because of corrupt politics.....

This from the girl who just said that she did 2 tours in Kandahar...  Ask for your discharge papers.  Seem that you know better than all of us here.

enlighten us with your wisdoms 

au contraire....until humans evolve enough to not want to subject one another to hideous exploitation...and only are able to resolve their differences at the point of exterminating one another....we will have wars and soldiers.

Although I hate wars, I salute those who are brave enough to risk their life and limb to attempt to defend others.

Those who cause wars and send others into harms way into war are of another category, soldiers I honor. 

There are always the people who sit on their fat asses and think they know what they are talking about. Both politicians and  couch potatos exist.

I did 2 tours as a medical officer for a nato air base, I seen enough blood shed,  experience enough mental combat fatique to know that war is not the answer to some fat ass;s who thinks they know what they are talking about. There is no honor in it there are no fun. I really don´t think you know what you are talking about, you live of heresay only. But carry on.... because war is a money maker at best

a few other points...... war not only kills people and make orphans and widows, it destroys buildings, roads, infrastructure, education system, safety , unfortunately humans have not changed in all the years they have existed we are no better than the neandrathals throwing stones ........

I did not join the army with the intentions of fighting wars outside my own country. I joined because of the structure it teaches you and the aid you can give in natural disasters, like forest fires and flooding and major earthquakes. Unfortunately a soldier is also the property of the goverment and can be sold to the highest bidder.

Why should people die because of a war? Money and time is wasted because of war. No war is fought to bring peace, it just brings more destruction. Wars should be solved by discussing the problem, not shooting others and fighting. Think about all the innocent people who have a long life ahead of them, and all the children who lose their parents because of a unnecessary war. War gives us nothing but loss. Is that what we´re trying to accomplish? Loss?

Makes you wonder what Kelowna has against the Turkish Army. South Koreans themselves certainly disagree with him.

His father was probably one of the translators in Korea.