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sene/sana
1.       Silvis
23 posts
 13 Feb 2014 Thu 10:16 pm

I wanna know about this Sene/Sana like versene .. söylesene ect...

2.       tunci
7149 posts
 13 Feb 2014 Thu 11:40 pm

 

Quoting Silvis

I wanna know about this Sene/Sana like versene .. söylesene ect...

 

When -sene [sana] can comes to a verb stem, it functions as wishing, requesting and order   it should be  used in informal speech with friends and family.And it is adressed to second person [singular or plural] YOU

 

* It can be used for asking [requesting ] the second person [singular/plural] to do someting.

Bu  akşam bize gelsene  ---> Come to us tonight ! [ Lets come to us tonight ]

 

Plural 

 Bu akşam bize gelinsene--- >[ Lets you [plural] come to us tonight !

 

In the sentence above ,

* there is a wish and request. [ requesting him/her /them  come to us ]

 

 

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* It can be an order with annoying mood.

[ You are annoyed with the phone ringing for 10 minutes  and you ask your friend to answer the phone ]

 

Şu telefona baksana ! --> Answer the phone !

  

Its like asking to hurry up on answering the phone.

 

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You are sitting around the dinner table and asking your brother to pass you the saltshaker ;


Tuzluğu uzatsana  ---> Pass the saltshaker.

 

In the end, its not polite form to use when you use it as an order.

Instead, you can say  " Tuzlugu uzatır mısın ? ---> Can you pass the shaltshaker ?

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3.       Silvis
23 posts
 14 Feb 2014 Fri 03:47 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

When -sene [sana] can comes to a verb stem, it functions as wishing, requesting and order   it should be  used in informal speech with friends and family.And it is adressed to second person [singular or plural] YOU

 

* It can be used for asking [requesting ] the second person [singular/plural] to do someting.

Bu  akşam bize gelsene  ---> Come to us tonight ! [ Lets come to us tonight ]

 

Plural 

 Bu akşam bize gelinsene--- >[ Lets you [plural] come to us tonight !

 

In the sentence above ,

* there is a wish and request. [ requesting him/her /them  come to us ]

 

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------

* It can be an order with annoying mood.

[ You are annoyed with the phone ringing for 10 minutes  and you ask your friend to answer the phone ]

 

Şu telefona baksana ! --> Answer the phone !

  

Its like asking to hurry up on answering the phone.

 

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You are sitting around the dinner table and asking your brother to pass you the saltshaker ;


Tuzluğu uzatsana  ---> Pass the saltshaker.

 

In the end, its not polite form to use when you use it as an order.

Instead, you can say  " Tuzlugu uzatır mısın ? ---> Can you pass the shaltshaker ?

Thankx a lot Tunci

 

4.       Silvis
23 posts
 13 May 2014 Tue 04:17 pm

Selamlar
What is difference between al and alsana ??

Thankx in advance

5.       KediNero
418 posts
 13 May 2014 Tue 04:22 pm

 what would be difference between gelinsene and gelsenenize? 



Edited (5/13/2014) by KediNero

6.       mehmet111
195 posts
 13 May 2014 Tue 04:28 pm

 

Quoting Silvis

Selamlar
What is difference between al and alsana ??

Thankx in advance

 

Al. (Take.)

Alsana. (Take. (Why don´t you take?))



Edited (5/13/2014) by mehmet111

7.       mehmet111
195 posts
 13 May 2014 Tue 04:40 pm

 

Quoting Silvis

I wanna know about this Sene/Sana like versene .. söylesene ect...

 

It depends on here:

VERB+se(wish clause)+n(2nd singular)+e(optative mood)

/sa(wish clause)+n(2nd singular)+e(optative mood)

 

se+niz(2nd plural)+e

sa+nız(2nd plural)+a

 

Buraya gelin. (Come here.)

Buraya gelsenize. (Come here, why don´t you come?) [as if giving hints]

 

Niye susuyorsunuz, konuşun. (Why are you quiet, speak.)

Niye susuyorsunuz, konuşsanıza. (Why are you quiet, why don´t you speak? (I´m giving you hints to speak.)

 

Bir daha yaz, belki görmemiştir. (Write one more time, he may hadn´t seen.)

Bir daha yazsana, belki görmemiştir. (Why don´t you write one more time, he may hadn´t seen.) (I advise you to write again.)

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8.       mehmet111
195 posts
 13 May 2014 Tue 04:43 pm

"gelinsene"???

 

Tunci may have made a mistake, as far as I think. Our language doesn´t have such a pattern. It´s not possible to add "-sene/-sana" after the imperative suffix.

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9.       Silvis
23 posts
 13 May 2014 Tue 05:14 pm

Thankx a lot Mehmet and we miss ur grammer lessons

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