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A musical puzzle
1.       trip
297 posts
 16 May 2015 Sat 12:09 pm

Merhabalar! I have discovered something very interesting, I think. On Mabel Matiz´s new album there is a song I like very much called "Fena Halde Bela." Every time I heard the opening phrase (sorry, I am not a musician, so my terminology is probably wrong) I felt like I had heard it before in a Barış Manço song, but I could not figure out which one. Well, now I have! Listen to the opening of "Fena Halde Bela" and then listen to the opening of "Ahmet Beyin Ceketi." İşte böyle!

"Fena Halde Bela": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyTun4DP4kY

"Ahmet Beyin Ceketi": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwYQFXicBo

Turkish music experts, can you tell me if there is a reason for this similarity?Perhaps this phrase comes from a traditional song or musical form that both artists have pulled from? Or is Matiz paying homage to the great Barış Manço? I have to admit that I haven´t studied the lyrics of these two songs, but they don´t sound similar to me. "Ahmet Beyin Ceketi" means "Ahmet Bey´s Jacket," yes?And "Fena Halde Bela" is something like "Terrible Trouble"?

Here are alternate links, in case you don´t have YouTube:

"Fena Halde Bela": http://www.izlesene.com/video/mabel-matiz-fena-halde-bela-2015/8177940

"Ahmet Beyin Ceketi": http://www.izlesene.com/video/baris-manco-ahmet-beyin-ceketi/5844489

Yardımınız için teşekkür ederim!

 

 



Edited (5/16/2015) by trip

2.       denizli
970 posts
 16 May 2015 Sat 05:43 pm

 

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Here are alternate links, in case you don´t have YouTube:

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Does anyone know if YouTube was banned in Turkey? Just wondering.

3.       JNQ
465 posts
 16 May 2015 Sat 10:48 pm

Evet:

http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube%27a_T%C3%BCrkiye%27den_eri%C5%9Fimin_engellenmesi

Twitter also.



Edited (5/16/2015) by JNQ
Edited (5/18/2015) by JNQ

4.       trip
297 posts
 01 Jun 2015 Mon 10:35 am

A new puzzle for Barış Manço fans: A Turkish friend was going to a wedding recently and suggested that I listen to a halay. I chose one at random on the Internet, so I´m not sure how traditional it really is. It is called Dostluk Halayı and it is performed by a group called Yurtseven Kardeşler. I like the song very much, and if you have time, you should listen to the whole thing. But here is the puzzle: On either link below, if you go to 7:45 on the timer and listen carefully, you will hear a little riff on a Barış song. Which song is it? (Don´t look at my answer below before you are ready with yours.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJ85Nity-s

http://www.izlesene.com/video/yurtseven-kardesler-dostluk-halay/5610647

 

 

 

 

 

Here is my answer. It is part of the bridge in this song. Tell me if I am right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9fcrREySQg

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs141v_baris-manco-ve-mogollar-iste-hendek-iste-deve-1971_music

 

Is there another connection here that I´m not aware of? Bana söyle lütfen. 



Edited (6/1/2015) by trip

5.       denizli
970 posts
 05 Jun 2015 Fri 05:23 am

I´m sorry Trip but I tried listening to both and I couldn´t tell if it was the same riff or not.

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