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11 Jan 2016 Mon 05:32 pm |
Merhaba...
I have a question regarding the future tense.
I asked the admins the same, but nobody replied so I decided to post it here. Regarding the verb close - kapat... Why doesn´t word mutation occur? The correct form is obviously kapatacağım, but why isn´t it kapadacağım?
Teşekkür ederim!
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11 Jan 2016 Mon 08:49 pm |
Yes, posting it here is the best, rather than sending a question to the Admin.
I didn´t realize this either. Maybe you need to remember them. If anyone has an answer, I´m curious too.
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11 Jan 2016 Mon 10:28 pm |
It seems to me that the more I learn, the more confused I get.
Just as I think I´ve learned something, I come across an exception to the rule. However, when I know it is just an exception, I know I simply have to learn it by heart.
But if there is a rule, I want to know which one to apply and why.
I´ve also asked native speakers, but nobody gives me an exact answer. :/
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11 Jan 2016 Mon 11:52 pm |
Yes Turkish has a lot of exceptions actually. But much less than English. Likely whomever you asked didn´t realize about this one.
I finally found a good answer. And actually isn´t related to future tense.
http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/seyretmek-and-other-t-d-verbs.1214952/
According to this no verbs follow this rule except:
1. etmek, and all products of it: seyretmek, affetmek, ahdetmek,....etc 2. tatmak 3. gitmek 4. gütmek
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12 Jan 2016 Tue 12:03 am |
Merhaba,
Softening of consonant is only available for nouns.
But there are 4 exceptional verbs; "git", "et", "tat", "güt"
If we add a vowel suffix these verbs, we must turn their last letter to "d".
For example; gideceğim, edeceğim, tadacağım, güdeceğim
Meanwhile, there are some exceptional nouns.
We must keep the same most of monosyllabic nouns with vowel suffixes;
For example;
top > topa
koç > koçum
dut > dutu
We must keep the same some nouns with vowel suffixes that are transferred to Turkish from other foreign languages.
For example;
bisiklet > bisikleti
hukuk > hukuku
kart > karta
ahret > ahreti
Edited (1/12/2016) by nativespeaker
[I added "gütmek" verb]
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12 Jan 2016 Tue 10:51 am |
Teşekkürler to both of you!
I didn´t realize that the word mutation occurs only with nouns, as it is not explained in the lessons. It says "WORD (not noun) has to end with p, ç, t, k..." so thank you for clearing that up.
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12 Jan 2016 Tue 12:33 pm |
One more thing from the excercises...
The sentence goes like this:
"Ben Ankara´yı sevmiyorum."
The question is which verb was used?
I wrote "sevmemek" but they corrected me and said it is "sevmek".
How can this be when they are verbs of completely opposite meanings.
Wouldn´t the sentence with "sevmek" go like this:
"Ben Ankara´yi seviyorum."
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12 Jan 2016 Tue 01:47 pm |
One more thing from the excercises...
The sentence goes like this:
"Ben Ankara´yı sevmiyorum."
The question is which verb was used?
I wrote "sevmemek" but they corrected me and said it is "sevmek".
How can this be when they are verbs of completely opposite meanings.
Wouldn´t the sentence with "sevmek" go like this:
"Ben Ankara´yi seviyorum."
sevmek - love
sevmemek - don´t love
Word root is "sevmek". "sev-me-mek" is negative form of "sevmek" that is created using the negative suffix "-me".
Teacher meant "sevmemek" can´t be a word root. Verb is "sevmek" and "sevmemek" is negative form of "sevmek" verb.
Edited (1/12/2016) by nativespeaker
Edited (1/12/2016) by nativespeaker
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12 Jan 2016 Tue 01:59 pm |
I understand the suffix -me is added for a negative meaning and I thought it was "sevmek", but I went to look it up anyway in the dictionary on this site and it was there on its own as a verb "sevmemek - to dislike".
I think they shouldn´t have put it on its own then, they should have listed it under "sevmek" and just write the meaning next to it.
Or they should just be more explicit in the excercises, they should have asked to choose the correct verb root then.
I know I´m splitting hairs now, but it is confusing for beginners and perfectionists like me.
Teşekkür ederim!
Edited (1/12/2016) by Kelebek84
Edited (1/12/2016) by Kelebek84
Edited (1/12/2016) by Kelebek84
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12 Jan 2016 Tue 04:31 pm |
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I know I´m splitting hairs now, but it is confusing for beginners and perfectionists like me.
Teşekkür ederim!
I wouldn´t worry - both are correct. It´s like what is the verb from ´disliked´? You could either say ´to like´ or ´to dislike´.
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