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Question about 'Olmak'
1.       Chantal
587 posts
 27 Jul 2006 Thu 10:22 pm

Hey!

I've been studying the grammar from this website, but now I came to this point:

'Now, let's see where 'to be' is used:

1. To construct a sentence with a noun or adjective instead of a verb, like in English. The verb to be is the implicit verb here.

*example example...blabla*

2. To construct verbs in different tenses, the suffix for each tense is used with either present tense of 'to be' or past tense of 'to be'. Actually, it is present tense of 'to be' in all cases except the 'regular past tense'.

And this 2nd one doesn't make sense to me at all! What is meant by it? there are no examples....

thnx

2.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 27 Jul 2006 Thu 10:31 pm

Im not really sure what you mean here, it is very complicated... (not ur fault!)
I hope my explanation helps.. :S

Quoting Chantal:



1. To construct a sentence with a noun or adjective instead of a verb, like in English. The verb to be is the implicit verb here.

*example example...blabla*




When a noun is described by a noun, it adopts a possesive suffix (which differs according to vowel harmony)
example:
garden(noun)door)(noun)

garden= bahçe
door= kapı

garden door= bahçe kapı
as you can see the word KAPI has adopted a possesive suffix and also uses an S as a buffer- Im sure you have studied this too

3.       Chantal
587 posts
 27 Jul 2006 Thu 10:35 pm

I understand nr 1, the problem is number 2.. it doesn't make sense, and I'm wondering who wrote the grammar, and therefore knows what he/she means by it! Thanks anyway!

4.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 27 Jul 2006 Thu 10:40 pm

Quoting Chantal:

I understand nr 1, the problem is number 2.. it doesn't make sense, and I'm wondering who wrote the grammar, and therefore knows what he/she means by it! Thanks anyway!



hehehe ayy i see what you mean.. its like one of those riddles in the paper

5.       Chantal
587 posts
 27 Jul 2006 Thu 10:43 pm

Quoting miss_ceyda:

its like one of those riddles in the paper



yeah sure

6.       bod
5999 posts
 28 Jul 2006 Fri 12:52 pm

What it means is that when you construct a verbal sentence you add the appropriate tense and then the appropriate suffix which IS the verb to be.

Example:
bağırmak - to shout
bağır-ıyor-um - I am shouting
verb stem + present continuous suffix + first person singular form of "to be"
bağır-ıyor-sun - You are shouting
verb stem + present continuous suffix + second person singular form of "to be"
bağır-dım - I shouted
verb stem + first person singular past form of "to be"

The "to be" suffixes come in only two forms - present and past.
All Turkish tenses except past are made up using a tense suffix (e.g. -iyor-) followed by the present tense of "to be". The simple past uses just the past form of "to be"

7.       Chantal
587 posts
 28 Jul 2006 Fri 01:21 pm

Thnx bod!

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