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Önce and evvel
1.       bod
5999 posts
 03 Aug 2006 Thu 07:05 pm

What is the difference between önce and evvel when used with the -meden (or -mezden) suffix?

Is there a difference between these two sentences?
içmeden önce yemem istiyorum
içmeden evvel yemem istiyorum
I want to eat before I drink

2.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 03 Aug 2006 Thu 07:39 pm

Quoting bod:

What is the difference between önce and evvel when used with the -meden (or -mezden) suffix?

Is there a difference between these two sentences?
içmeden önce yemem istiyorum
içmeden evvel yemem istiyorum
I want to eat before I drink



içmeden önce yemek istiyorum
içmeden evvel yemek istiyorum

they are same.

3.       bod
5999 posts
 04 Aug 2006 Fri 12:18 pm

Quoting caliptrix:

Quoting bod:

What is the difference between önce and evvel when used with the -meden (or -mezden) suffix?

Is there a difference between these two sentences?
içmeden önce yemem istiyorum
içmeden evvel yemem istiyorum
I want to eat before I drink



içmeden önce yemek istiyorum
içmeden evvel yemek istiyorum

they are same.



Yes - of course it is "yemek" - silly me I was thinking of the sentence structure for "yemem lazım" instead!!!

If they are the same, is one more common than the other?

4.       Erem
231 posts
 04 Aug 2006 Fri 01:59 pm

They pretty much mean the same thing, but "once" is a more modern way of saying "evvel". It's the same difference as saying "Previously" and "Before".

Erem,

5.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 04 Aug 2006 Fri 02:53 pm

I think both are ok.

6.       Marr
8 posts
 05 Aug 2006 Sat 02:08 am

it means the same

the difference is "önce" is a real turkish word and "evvel"is an arabic word.. that differences with same meanings exist because of the language spoken at the ottoman empire time which consists of arabic persian and turkish

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