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p --> b, t-->d
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31 Aug 2006 Thu 11:07 pm |
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I was reading the thread http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_7700 and i'm wondering :
Quoting bod: Quoting caliptrix: Ne yapıyorsun? is better.
Ne ediyorsun is also acceptable but not common. |
I thought the consonant harmony t -> d only applied to words of more than one syllabul...... |
when it's a verb, t --> d (etmek, ediyorum)
when it's a noun, p --> b (kitap, kitabı .
I've been told that it was so to make it easier to prononce. But if it's true, what doesn't the consonant always change ? What's the rule ? Why does kitap become kitabı(and not kitapı, and why does yapmak become yapıyor, and not yabıyor ? 
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01 Sep 2006 Fri 12:22 am |
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Consonant mutation has some irregularities.
On this page there is some information about this issue:
http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/conmut01.htm
Here are rules about consonant mutation:
1. Don't apply consonant mutation after a single syllable word.
2. Don't apply consonant mutation after nouns that were derived with the constructive suffix "t" (yakıt, barut, yanıt, yapıt etc)
3. Irregularities*:
çok > çoğu
teşekkür etmek > teşekkür ederim
* By irregularities I mean words that don't follow consonant mutation or that don't follow the two rules mentioned above.
A complete list on irregularities, which are not many, is unfortunately not available. There are limited number of irregularities but I don't know any source on this topic.
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01 Sep 2006 Fri 12:24 am |
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it is the one of the improtant turkish rule called the softening of hard consanant(p,ç,t,k) when they are at the and of word and after them we can use a wovel they have to change to p to b
do you understand?
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01 Sep 2006 Fri 01:31 am |
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Yes, there is a rule and as you see there are many exceptions or "add-on rules" in that rule.
It is not about verb or noun.
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